Rose's Interview

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I just saw Jenas and Shearer debate this issue on MOTD2. Both had good points but, strangely, I found myself agreeing with Shearer. (Yeah I know.)

Paraphrasing...."The team hasn't won anything. When they do they'll be in a better position to negotiate in between contracts."

Players can't keep putting the onus of winning things on to the manager and the chairman of the club. Especially when they are so close.

The one exception being, and maybe this is actually the position that Rose is really talking about, if Kane had quality competition for his place similar to that which Rose and Walker had, we'd have probably won the league last season. Same could be said for Erikssen and Dele too.
 
I just saw Jenas and Shearer debate this issue on MOTD2. Both had good points but, strangely, I found myself agreeing with Shearer. (Yeah I know.)

Paraphrasing...."The team hasn't won anything. When they do they'll be in a better position to negotiate in between contracts."

Players can't keep putting the onus of winning things on to the manager and the chairman of the club. Especially when they are so close.

The one exception being, and maybe this is actually the position that Rose is really talking about, if Kane had quality competition for his place similar to that which Rose and Walker had, we'd have probably won the league last season. Same could be said for Erikssen and Dele too.
One glaring flaw with Shearer's argument: he remained at Newcastle for a decade in spite of not winning anything.

Jenas probably should've brought that one up...
 
I just saw Jenas and Shearer debate this issue on MOTD2. Both had good points but, strangely, I found myself agreeing with Shearer. (Yeah I know.)

Paraphrasing...."The team hasn't won anything. When they do they'll be in a better position to negotiate in between contracts."

Players can't keep putting the onus of winning things on to the manager and the chairman of the club. Especially when they are so close.

The one exception being, and maybe this is actually the position that Rose is really talking about, if Kane had quality competition for his place similar to that which Rose and Walker had, we'd have probably won the league last season. Same could be said for Erikssen and Dele too.
The debate, for anyone that missed it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40924557
 
There's a screen shot of General Levy in that video from a Radio 1 live performance. I just had to find it. And now I've wasted another hour on YouTube listening to him

Saw him in Bristol back in the days. Never forget it

For those who don't know the legend General Levy and his high pitched screeches...

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All the pundits seem to think that players should be allowed to go to the clubs that "win things" instead of staying at the club they are at to help it "win things". Doesn't bode well for competition really, and suggests this "rule of entitlement" whereby only certain clubs will be allowed at the top of the league. I don't think such as system is sustainable in the long term.
 
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All the pundits seem to think that players should be allowed to go to the clubs that "win things" instead of staying at the club they are at to help it "win things". Doesn't bode well for competition really, and suggests this "rule of entitlement" whereby only certain clubs will be allowed at the top of the league. I don't think such as system is sustainable in the long term.

Indeed.

The Sky 4 'professional pundits' are the main source of this
entitlement narrative. More so for the case of say the Poool,
where Spurs are now the first persistent obstacle to them
getting into the CL via a PL finish.

This is why tis important IMHO that Spurs prevail, if only to
show the rest of the PL that you can punch above your financial
power consistently if you get your act together, and don't
have to dream that you have a Leicester "black swan" event.
 
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All the pundits seem to think that players should be allowed to go to the clubs that "win things" instead of staying at the club they are at to help it "win things". Doesn't bode well for competition really, and suggests this "rule of entitlement" whereby only certain clubs will be allowed at the top of the league. I don't think such as system is sustainable in the long term.

It's the rule of 'The Path of Least Resistance'. It is that people, like electricity, will usually go down the easiest route to achieve something, e.g. fame, wealth, fitness, cup of tea, CK's coat.... Ergo, most footballers will look to win things in the easiest possible way such as by joining a club that has more recently won something than a club that is on the cusp of winning something but still might actually win something. Basically, they want the shiney baubles for the least effort. Manchester City have a greater chance of winning something than Spurs because they have recently (or more recently) won a trophy. This is dressed up as an 'achievement' even though the likes of Scott Sinclair and Jack Rodwell technically have Premiership titles to their names even though they actually did sod all. It's like passing your exams by copying chunks of the brainy kids work and passing it off as your own.

The real test of character and drive are those who try to achieve the same goals but by not always taking the most obvious (or least resistant) route.