Yeah pre season to make up the numbers. Pardew doesn't give kids a chance in the league. He proved that when we had **** all to play for yet Shola and L Dejong played ahead of Campbell
Rolando Aarons
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Armstrong is no where near ready. The very premise of chucking them in when things are going is a no no if you listen to the likes of Dortmund etc. They say you play them when you are winning, not as some last resort when it goes tits up as it does more harm than good. When we were going well Armstrong was not, and he still isn't. Very few are at 17 or 18. Even the Southampton youngsters had to wait longer.
We had nothing to play for. Throw him in tell him to enjoy himself no pressure. Why play Shola? He's shown over a decade he's useless. De Jong wasn't being kept. Was a perfect chance to give the kid a chance
Did you even watch us? No pressure, yeah there was no pressure at all. The atmosphere in the ground was horrific due to Pardew/The coaches/Players/Board ineptitude. Quite possibly one of the worst envrionments to develop young talent. Why let that stop you though, he'd get over it............
All the flack was aimed at Pardew and the useless ****s. Armstrong is 17 not 5 he knows the **** wouldn't be directed at him
If Pardew had thrown youngsters into what was going on at the end of last season then he really would deserve flack. It would have been the stupidest thing he had done to date and could have ruined very promising careers
The pressure during any poor run is high, but with the added weight of the crowd's discontent at the club/manager/team at the end of the season it was huge. It's basic stuff. You don't throw inexperienced youngsters into a failing situation. You ease them into a successful environment. This is the case in any environment, not just football, where you care about the long term training of the individual.
I'd agree if it was a relegation scrap. It was essentially a few friendlies
Much more elooquently put and absolutely nailed. He would have deserved huge amounts of stick. It would have been pathetic when you have fit senior players who were basically underperforming/not trying.
Pardew was hugely at fault for creating the toxic atmosphere, but the one good thing he managed to do was avoid putting any young talent in that cauldron of hate.
Still reckon he'd have gone if finishing 11th. I don't think he has the same luxury this season, I don't think that this season he will be allowed to scrape points however he can. Feels like, with the players we've bought, the board/owner is daring him to play hoofball.
Was he? I'd say he played his part along with the players, but the single biggest factor which created such a poor situation was the boards action of selling our best player and not replacing him. It was not a coincidence that our nose dive coincided with this.
All he has to do is finish top 10 until the board states our ambition has changed. I can only assume it hasn't, because whereas we have signed lots of players, we haven't sorted out our defence. I don't know if he'd have gone if he'd come 11th. I suspect not but it would all depend on the contract. I personally do not think anything has changed with regard to Ashley's ambition. I think he wants a club that makes money. He has one.
I don't think he wants to play hoofball. Its a nonsense. We didn't in the season we finished 5th, we didn't last season when going well. Like most clubs when things start to go tits up, the football suffers. He is not a great coach in terms of turning things round, but the evidence we have does not suggest he wants to play hoofball.
I'm completely underwhelmed by Armstrong to be fair. A loan mvoe for him can't come quick enough IMO.
Just needs time and some game time. As you say a loan is right for him at present. Campbell too. I wouldn't give up on either at 18 and 19 but they need time.
Maybe I'm getting carried away after seeing a genuinely new player play well against the a weakened top division side, but I thought young Aarons was our best player against Schalke. His pace and ball control is there. Good for him he nicked a flukey goal. And I know from the horses mouth that KK always looked for players who can run with the ball ...
If he's good enough he's old enough. Let's see if he can have a good game tonight. And I wouldn't loan him to anyone.
If he's good enough he's old enough. Let's see if he can have a good game tonight. And I wouldn't loan him to anyone.
Like you I have that carried away feeling. I reckon we may have a top top talent on our hands.
Probably true. A big move awaits. Liverpool may fancy a bit of reggae reggae down the wings with him and Sterling. Perhaps the same for England.
He'll conquer the world within two years. Rolando Aarons - the new Cristiano Ronaldo/John Barnes
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