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[Treble]

Could be, but if things are still in the balance by March then there's the possibility of it all going downhill very fast if you have some bad form/injuries/correct decisions given against you.

Might want to reserve the plane banner now while it's cheap just in case

Yeh agree which is why I deliberately said 3rd. If we're 4th then it's squeaky bum time

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

they have been good but they also showed a really lousy run too recently. they might get 4th sure... but a couple injuries, suspensions kick in.... they can drop down.

i'd be surprised if utd end up 2nd. i think both top 2 are going to be rolling at full tilt on the run in and from 46 points now v 37 points... well in 18 games utd basically need to win 3 more than the others minimum. for utd to pull 40 odd points out of 18 games thats basically 13 wins. is that possible yes.


have utd a great away record NO (2-6-2 is not brilliant)

utd would need to win all 9 remaining home games the win 4 of the remaining 9 away games

they will get 3rd imo.

however thats potato potatoe... they will be in cl we will be 7th

 

[UnitedinRed]

Reckon we will better our points tally from the first half of the season quite comfortably.

 

[astro]

they have been good but they also showed a really lousy run too recently. they might get 4th sure... but a couple injuries, suspensions kick in.... they can drop down.

i'd be surprised if utd end up 2nd.

If Man Utd end up 2nd then whichever manager came 3rd needs sacking on the spot

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I'm not saying we'll have 70 points by 30 games If you get to 30 games and you're 3rd, with 8 games to go, they run down without too much turnaround in points. Astro understood what I was saying

In those heady days when we won league title, I always felt if we had a 4/5 points gap with 7/8 games to go the opposition would run out of games to catch us and they usually did (no fcker mention 2012!). I'd feel the same if we were 3rd.

to have cl wrapped up you have to get 70 points..... you want me to dig out some stats on teams swapping round in last 8 games?

being in the title race is different than being racing for also rans slot. title winners win most all their games so yeah having 5 point lead is huge... most of the time


example

2013

after 30 games

utd top
city way back
tottenham 3rd 57points
arsenal 4th 56 points.

final table
utd top
city way back
chelsa 75points
arsenal 4th 73 points.
tottenham heart break.

assume nothing.

i accept you meant something else but i'm just pointing out you can be as cocky as you like but thats why on the lfc board you get shot down


by the by that year.

at 20 games.

chelsea 3rd 38 points
spurs 4th 36
arsenal 5th 33
west brom and everton level on 33 points......

very similar to today....

who knows you might have a turd of a time in the next month then usr your class to fight back in the end.



i say 3rd utd and southampton 6th, west ham 8th.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

If Man Utd end up 2nd then whichever manager came 3rd needs sacking on the spot

don't worry if they do that 3rd place manager will be in the CL final....

city have barca to play.... big ask. chelsea have psg... not quite as big.... i reckon if city go out early they will win the title. the only way chelsea implode imo is if they go long in the cl and burn out costa and hazard

 

[Treble]

I can't see us getting 2nd. We aren't consistent enough to get ahead of the top 2. You have to hand it to City, no Aguero and they still carry on winning. If there was a chink that was it, but they closed the door well and truly, and fair play to them.

Tbh I would be more than happy with 3rd or 4th this season.

 

[UnitedinRed]

I can't see us getting 2nd. We aren't consistent enough to get ahead of the top 2. You have to hand it to City, no Aguero and they still carry on winning. If there was a chink that was it, but they closed the door well and truly, and fair play to them.

Tbh I would be more than happy with 3rd or 4th this season.

Yeh City have done well to cope with Aguero and before him, Silva out for extended periods.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Reckon we will better our points tally from the first half of the season quite comfortably.

i think theres at least a good chance of it you went 8-1-1 at home so far. so home form is not at issue. away you are 2-6-2... thats not good so the trick is away form. if you improved that... and 4-0-4 returns the same points away in 9 games not 10..... ell then ou will.

you aint taking more at home cos thats next to impossile you've done that well.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I can't see us getting 2nd. We aren't consistent enough to get ahead of the top 2. You have to hand it to City, no Aguero and they still carry on winning. If there was a chink that was it, but they closed the door well and truly, and fair play to them.

Tbh I would be more than happy with 3rd or 4th this season.

which is fair and frankly deserved.

 

[Treble]

to have cl wrapped up you have to get 70 points..... you want me to dig out some stats on teams swapping round in last 8 games?

being in the title race is different than being racing for also rans slot. title winners win most all their games so yeah having 5 point lead is huge... most of the time


example

2013

after 30 games

utd top
city way back
tottenham 3rd 57points
arsenal 4th 56 points.

final table
utd top
city way back
chelsa 75points
arsenal 4th 73 points.
tottenham heart break.

assume nothing.

i accept you meant something else but i'm just pointing out you can be as cocky as you like but thats why on the lfc board you get shot down


by the by that year.

at 20 games.

chelsea 3rd 38 points
spurs 4th 36
arsenal 5th 33
west brom and everton level on 33 points......

very similar to today....

who knows you might have a turd of a time in the next month then usr your class to fight back in the end.



i say 3rd utd and southampton 6th, west ham 8th.

Nah it's not being cocky at all, and I never get shot down on here. You're ignoring experience and big club mentality. United in 3rd with 8 games to go is a different prospect to Spurs in 3rd so it's a tenuous comparison. If you can find any seasoned top 4 club in 3rd place come the run in, that then got overturned to outside the top 4 I'd be surprised.

 

[UnitedinRed]

i think theres at least a good chance of it you went 8-1-1 at home so far. so home form is not at issue. away you are 2-6-2... thats not good so the trick is away form. if you improved that... and 4-0-4 returns the same points away in 9 games not 10..... ell then ou will.

you aint taking more at home cos thats next to impossile you've done that well.

Our away form is poor be we are not losing away from home. We need to turn the draws into wins.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Our away form is poor be we are not losing away from home. We need to turn the draws into wins.

or conversely trun the draws into losses for astro... either way.

stoke away = hard game... good draw.


QPR
west ham
Swansea City
Newcastle United
LFC
Chelsea
Everton
palace
hull

your away games are..... now..... qpr... as good as stoke for battering you with long ball. west ham, ditto... swansea 6/2/2 home record quite good but no bony... newkie? easy meat... us... chelsea.... even everton....

for me i can see you win the 4 and take a few draws so yeah you can do better on the road from now on.... if its not a fragility you have in you. qpr up first on 17th...

 

[UnitedinRed]

or conversely trun the draws into losses for astro... either way.

stoke away = hard game... good draw.


QPR
west ham
Swansea City
Newcastle United
LFC
Chelsea
Everton
palace
hull

your away games are..... now..... qpr... as good as stoke for battering you with long ball. west ham, ditto... swansea 6/2/2 home record quite good but no bony... newkie? easy meat... us... chelsea.... even everton....

for me i can see you win the 4 and take a few draws so yeah you can do better on the road from now on.... if its not a fragility you have in you. qpr up first on 17th...

Wins in bold
Draws in italics
Defeats underlined

Not too unrealistic.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I can't see the italics but you just said you will go from 2-6-2 record to a 5-3-1 record from here

Add 9 wins at home I presume....

That would be 14*3+5+ 37 which is 85 points

So where is the realistic then... Can you clarify how you think you'll get 85 and not be in title race given today you said the other two will finish ahead!

I presume we can just now wait til the Chelsea game you think you'll lose and the heartily laugh at your anguish as you did at ours

 

[carlthejackal]

or conversely trun the draws into losses for astro... either way.

stoke away = hard game... good draw.


QPR
west ham
Swansea City
Newcastle United
LFC
Chelsea
Everton
palace
hull

your away games are..... now..... qpr... as good as stoke for battering you with long ball. west ham, ditto... swansea 6/2/2 home record quite good but no bony... newkie? easy meat... us... chelsea.... even everton....

for me i can see you win the 4 and take a few draws so yeah you can do better on the road from now on.... if its not a fragility you have in you. qpr up first on 17th...

The biggest difference compared to last season (whether Astro likes it or not) is that at home they are now confident of beating teams. Last season, their away record was much better than their home one as it seems they were **** scared of their own crowd.

In fact if their away record improves the rest of the season they could get > 76 points and dig in that 3rd place. Even Chelsea may be happy with a point if they've had a hard CL match.

 

[Treble]

It's not just about our mindset though. It's also about the opposition's. And while teams come to OT thinking they can press us and harry our defence, I won't be so confident about our home form.

But IF we beat Southampton on Sunday then that will go some way to achieve that. I'd take a draw now tbh.

 

[UnitedinRed]

I can't see the italics but you just said you will go from 2-6-2 record to a 5-3-1 record from here

Add 9 wins at home I presume....

That would be 14*3+5+ 37 which is 85 points

So where is the realistic then... Can you clarify how you think you'll get 85 and not be in title race given today you said the other two will finish ahead!

I presume we can just now wait til the Chelsea game you think you'll lose and the heartily laugh at your anguish as you did at ours

We wont win 9 home games. 7 maybe.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Oh right that mKes all the difference then

 

[UnitedinRed]

Oh right that mKes all the difference then

Quite a bit yeh.