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Yid Vicious said:
I've never seen him accept defeat graciously, he always has a ref, player or other team's tactics to blame or have a dig at. Everton lumping the ball forward(if they did do that, I didn't watch it) had nothing to do with United's inability to score.
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Everton honestly could've had 4 or 5.
 
Yid Vicious said:
I've never seen him accept defeat graciously, he always has a ref, player or other team's tactics to blame or have a dig at. Everton lumping the ball forward(if they did do that, I didn't watch it) had nothing to do with United's inability to score.
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It's just the usual nonsense he comes out with after a defeat. The funny thing is Wenger gets castigated for saying similar. He couldn't be more wrong. Everton played brilliant one touch football and totally outplayed and outclassed United from the first whistle. The best 5 players on the pitch were all Everton players
 
District Line said:
It's just the usual nonsense he comes out with after a defeat. The funny thing is Wenger gets castigated for saying similar. He couldn't be more wrong. Everton played brilliant one touch football and totally outplayed and outclassed United from the first whistle. The best 5 players on the pitch were all Everton players
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Yet another example of one rule for United, one rule for the other 19 teams. The only time his excuses really got lampooned was the time he blamed a 6-3 defeat to Southampton on their grey away strip which, quite conveniently, was replaced by a blue and white kit they had on sale anyway...
 
Wenger and Fergie are both bad losers. Maybe its a trait you need at the very top? Harry and Jol were both very good losers, and they won nothing.
 
I think United could be the surprise package this season. Could they finish outside the top 4?
 
spurfectionist said:
Wenger and Fergie are both bad losers. Maybe its a trait you need at the very top? Harry and Jol were both very good losers, and they won nothing.
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Unfortunately that might actually be true.
Redknapp was far too accepting when we lost to Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the season before last to two wrongly given goals, for example.

Officials are afraid to make mistakes that cost managers who have taken them or their colleagues to task in the past.
I think his relatively laid back approach to those kind of decisions increased the likelyhood of them going against us.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
How insightful everyone is after- wait for it- ONE league game, which RvP played 20 minutes of, against a team who played as if their lives depended on it <doh>

Applying the same logic as applied here, City have a dodgy defence, Arsenal can't score goals, Swansea will walk the title and Liverpool are relegation certainties (that one's probably right actually).
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United look dodgy, from the top all the way down to the hapless kitman! <laugh>

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PleaseNotPoll said:
Unfortunately that might actually be true.
Redknapp was far too accepting when we lost to Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the season before last to two wrongly given goals, for example.

Officials are afraid to make mistakes that cost managers who have taken them or their colleagues to task in the past.
I think his relatively laid back approach to those kind of decisions increased the likelyhood of them going against us.
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Mark Hughes and Sam Allardyce are also extremely bad losers but they've never been at the top table, whilst Carlo Ancelotti took losses in his stride and won the double.

Naturally those defending Bacon Face will call it a desire to win, yet they never seem to say the same for Wenger et al.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Unfortunately that might actually be true.
Redknapp was far too accepting when we lost to Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the season before last to two wrongly given goals, for example.

Officials are afraid to make mistakes that cost managers who have taken them or their colleagues to task in the past.
I think his relatively laid back approach to those kind of decisions increased the likelyhood of them going against us.
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Yeah, I think this is something that AVB will not be tolerating from the look of him on the touchline on Saturday. The BBC journalist also mischieviously asked him after the game whether he thought it was a penalty when everyone knew it was a stonewall penalty, presumably hoping he'd jump in blind assuming it was controversial and criticise the ref. AVB just said that it wasn't his place to comment, which was smart. I don't want him to be the kind of manager that whinges every week but I'd like to see our manager put the boot in when the likes Twatkinson give ghost goals against us and other ridiculous decisions.
 
Yid Vicious said:
Yeah, I think this is something that AVB will not be tolerating from the look of him on the touchline on Saturday. The BBC journalist also mischieviously asked him after the game whether he thought it was a penalty when everyone knew it was a stonewall penalty, presumably hoping he'd jump in blind assuming it was controversial and criticise the ref. AVB just said that it wasn't his place to comment, which was smart. I don't want him to be the kind of manager that whinges every week but I'd like to see our manager put the boot in when the likes Twatkinson give ghost goals against us and other ridiculous decisions.
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BBC journos are getting to be as bad, if not worse, than their Sky counterparts for the obvious riling of managers for a good clip on MOTD.

They were just as culpable during the Titanics, too - I caught one time where they kept asking a Team GBore member who just won silver in the judo if their opponent got lucky three times, each time being bluntly told that he was simply the better fighter (although he should've cut him off and asked since when a silver medal is no longer good enough - leave the "you don't win silver, you lose gold" mentality to the Americans)
 
Bryan Swanson has just tweete to say that he understands that Carvalho is joining QPR.

seriously, do QPR want any more players?!

it just makes me laugh how Hughes is spending fortunes but on players that are near past it, or cast off's from other clubs.

he did the same last season too and they just scraped staying up.
 
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