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I've not assumed Kane would've scored the penalty. I even said in an earlier post which I think was the one you quoted that they may or may not have scored. That is immaterial. The fact a penalty is awarded and happens means everything that follows changes.

My response and my point (and I don't know how many times I can repeat this <laugh> ) was in response to the Saka penalty claim and the fact Bayern had one earlier. Both penalty claims.

I've not mentioned what future events would've transpired had all decisions been given, I've only referenced one - namely the Bayern penalty and that all subsequent events would've changed had they been awarded theirs. That's not firtune telling mate, that's just a fact. Do you disagree with this? Tbf it's only you that's brought other decisions into it. We could micro-analyse every decision as a form of tedious or contentious whataboutery but that would seem ridiculous. I'd have exactly the same position if Arsenal had, had that handball pen claim first. So once again, not even at all.

Right, this is my final reply to you because we've done this to death and I'm sure people are getting bored about reading this exchange between us.

I perfectly understand that the Gabriel penalty incident was earlier than the Saka incident. I understand why you think the incidents don't cancel themselves out. I also understand, had this earlier penalty been given, the flow of the game may be different. But what I take issue with is the underlying assumption in your posts that Bayern would have maximised the benefits from this situation. I can flip this and say things could have also turned out very differently to what you would have expected. It's all hypothetical and none of us know what would have happened if they were awarded a spot kick. You seem to be convinced Gabriel should have been penalised for the penalty - that's your prerogative. I, on the other hand, do not think it's as straight forward as you're making it out to be. The wildly differences of opinions on this from football analysts, journalists, pundits and ex-players prove that to be the case. I also took issue with you focusing on that one part of my post about incidents levelling themselves out, and your unwavering belief that we should have conceded a penalty changing things, when there were other contentious decisions in the game which you could just as easily argue would have altered the course of events.

That's all I have to say on the matter. If you want to reply back, be my guest. But I'm moving on from this now.
 
You still think something impossible to know or prove is a fact. You might as well tell us what happens when you time travel and change the past too. Jeepers. Credibility shot.

Treble is simply using chaos theory .. seems he has a valid point to me
 
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I'll pick you up on this.

The Vardy Special was actually quite unique and remarkably skilled, to the extent that I haven't seen a PL striker do it since they went down.

Vardy did this thing where he would tuck the defender's arm under his own armpit and make it as if he was being pulled back. He would then fling himself to the floor but at such an angle and spin that it looked like he'd been hauled down, a remarkably difficult feat considering he'd be running full pelt in the opposite direction at the time.

I recall a few penalties given against us where he did this. The best was probably the one against Sanchez in their 2-4 defeat.

Saka is bad but Vardy was a different level.
He had/has a variety of dives, including initiating contact and throwing himself to ground:
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This was actually given as a penalty, believe it or not. Against Utd, too.

There's also the classic leg drag, which didn't come off in this case:
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The one you're talking about was reviewed by VAR. They still ****ed it up:
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More penalties for them in that game than for us this season in all competitions...
 
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Sheffield United have been docked 2 points for their next season in the EFL.
They also have another 2 point deduction suspended in the case that they reoffend.
They failed to make payments to other clubs in the 22/23 season.
It would take a miracle to stay up now, so this is basically next season.
 
Sheffield United have been docked 2 points for their next season in the EFL.
They also have another 2 point deduction suspended in the case that they reoffend.
They failed to make payments to other clubs in the 22/23 season.
It would take a miracle to stay up now, so this is basically next season.
Explains selling Sander Berge to Burnley on the eve of the season without replacing him
 
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Over 2 legs, how many are West Ham going to lose by against Leverkusen? By 6 goals I reckon.
Leverkusen struggled to get through the last round. Carrier bag was it? Goals in the 94th and 98th minutes after trailing.
It may be closer than you think. They are in great form, but the Bundesliga is nowhere near the standard of the PL
 
Leverkusen struggled to get through the last round. Carrier bag was it? Goals in the 94th and 98th minutes after trailing.
It may be closer than you think. They are in great form, but the Bundesliga is nowhere near the standard of the PL

The Spanners will fight hard, as they cannot currently
guarantee entry into the EL next season courtesy of their
PL placing.