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Evening my song stealing friends. Heading up for our opening day game in a couple of weeks and hoping for some pub/driving tips.

My preference for London games is normally to only drive to outskirts and use public transport for the remainder (eg South Croydon for Palace and Richmond for Chelsea/Fulham/Brentford).

Looking at map I'm thinking maybe Cockfosters or Enfield? Is this right and is there lots of parking nearby? I don't mind a 30/40 minute trek from ground to car/station if neccesary and would prefer that if it means getting away quicker.

Advice on pubs would be appreciated too as came via Seven sisters last time and don't know area north of ground at all. Presumably I won't get into the Bricklayers on a matchday? Shame if so as that's a cracking boozer.

Might be time to do a proper pinned article on the topic as we do get
asked this (or variations on the theme) from time to time ...


Firstly, check the Overground timetables to ensure they are not
doing engineering work that day (the networks do not give a
f**k about whether Spurs have games on that day or not) .

On that basis, and the assumption you are going to drive
via the M25 to at least the Dartford crossing, you can go to :

1. Enfield Town
2. Edmonton green (via A406)

#1 has a sheltered car park, and the trains between Enfield Town
and WHL on match day pre KO / post FT are very frequent.

#2 has an open car park, and is about a 15 min walk to tWHL.


For pubs (if you do not want to try whatever facilities WHL offers
to away supporters) :

#1 has the Kings Head (long-standing pub) , and O'Neills (what
used to be The George - another long-standing pub now gone :( )

#2 has several pubs along Fore St, although AFAIK all of
those south of Angel road effectively become Spurs pubs
on match days (not sure about the Crown and Anchor) .
 
Thanks for the responses all. Theobald Grove is looking like the winner with a train to Silver Street.

Here's hoping for a good match and a repeat of last season's encounter <cheers>
 
The Chavs got annihilated by the Woolwich and Tuchel's had a meltdown:
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I wouldn't read anything into preseason results, but that does not sound like a happy manager.
We know what a difference players mindsets make. We have seen for ourselves how the same set of players can put in completely different performances for different managers. We have also seen how a player or manager can be distracted from the main chance and performance levels crash. At elite levels the slightest distraction can be the difference between winning and losing.
 
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The Chavs got annihilated by the Woolwich and Tuchel's had a meltdown: ...

I wouldn't read anything into preseason results

Summer 2008 still burns deep. :)


"but that does not sound like a happy manager"

All he had to say to the hacks is that he was not happy
with that performance, and then behind closed doors
give the squad the Fergie hair dryer treatment.
 
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Summer 2008 still burns deep. :)


"but that does not sound like a happy manager"

All he had to say to the hacks is that he was not happy
with that performance, and then behind closed doors
give the squad the Fergie hair dryer treatment.

He has previous for falling out en masse with his squad and/or club's hierarchy. Happened at Dortmund where he was described as a "very difficult person", and again at PSG where he was called out for "not respecting the people above him".
 
Very few American owners get it right, especially straight out of the box. Clearing house of the existing executives, without bringing in replacements was NOT a smart move. United did the same under the Glazers and it's done them significant harm.

It's to be hoped that Boehly continues to try and run the thing himself, like Levy, without his knowledge and experience, whilst we employ experts to do our football planning and recruitment. This window has shown the benefit of having a proper DoF working for a coach who knows what he wants. It seems simple but most owners manage to **** it up
 
Very few American owners get it right, especially straight out of the box. Clearing house of the existing executives, without bringing in replacements was NOT a smart move. United did the same under the Glazers and it's done them significant harm.

It's to be hoped that Boehly continues to try and run the thing himself, like Levy, without his knowledge and experience, whilst we employ experts to do our football planning and recruitment. This window has shown the benefit of having a proper DoF working for a coach who knows what he wants. It seems simple but most owners manage to **** it up

One of the biggest differences is the culture surrounding the transfer or exchange of players. I can't speak for every American sport, but I do know that the NBA and MLB (sources of almost all of Boehly's previous experience) simply do not work with "transfers" in the same way that football does. Player trades, contract exchanges, draft waivers, free agents are generally the methods via which player x stops playing for team y and starts playing for team z in those sports. Straight-up monetary agreement for services rendered are non-existent and I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a number of transfer windows for American owners to get to grips with the system. I'm sure most of us would take a fair amount of time to wrap our heads around the concept that our ambition to sign Star Player requires an eye-watering salary of circa $50m per year as part of a contract worth circa $300m with additional contract bonuses of circa $200m, and that to do this we have to somehow convince Unwanted Players x,y & z to move in the other direction or waive their contracts.

Totally different culture. Ours is surprisingly more free market than it is in the States with far fewer hurdles to surmount before a transfer - even a marquee one - is finalised. Third party ownership or image rights are genuinely the worst it gets over here in terms of spanners. As a result, American owners are often taken by surprise by the sheer speed of player transactions here and ultimately get left behind.

The Glazers were extremely fortunate in that they stepped into a club dominated by the iron will of one man who knew how to get things done. Boehly has stepped into a club notorious for a hire n' fire culture, with a manager who has a history of belligerence. It won't be easy for him.
 
Very few American owners get it right, especially straight out of the box. Clearing house of the existing executives, without bringing in replacements was NOT a smart move. United did the same under the Glazers and it's done them significant harm.

It's to be hoped that Boehly continues to try and run the thing himself, like Levy, without his knowledge and experience, whilst we employ experts to do our football planning and recruitment. This window has shown the benefit of having a proper DoF working for a coach who knows what he wants. It seems simple but most owners manage to **** it up
It's also worth pointing out that the current issue of Private Eye has a piece about Chelsea's current ownership structure in the back

...as in the part where the really dodgy stuff is usually tucked away
 
Neymar is the biggest diver in world football, closely followed by Mo Salah. You would think the officials would be wise to these cheats by now and give them nothing, but I suppose it depends on which club they play for.