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Dier Hard said:
If he ran into Ings, Ings would’ve gone flying as Matip’s a bigger unit than the striker. He runs across him and then gets pushed in the back.

It’s quite similar to how Kane used to draw the fouls when he’d look behind and wait for a defender to jump into his back.

It’s smart play to put yourself in that position as it’ll almost certainly result in a foul to the one that gets in hit in the back.
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Kane always does it, but he waits for the other player to make contact, rather like Salah for the penalty.
Matip barges into Ings and he doesn't send him flying because Ings has the momentum.
 
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"Good teams don't stay down for long." Leeds in 2nd tier for 20 years...
The ref issued no cards for this, apparently. Consistent. <ok>
 
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"Good teams don't stay down for long." Leeds in 2nd tier for 20 years...
The ref issued no cards for this, apparently. Consistent. <ok>
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Clearly a graduate of the Clattenburg School of Fantastic Narrative Weaving.

Also Rudiger is a complete and utter bellend. In every possible way.
 
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littleDinosaurLuke said:
Conspiracy theorists brain overload!
City, Liverpool and (possibly) Utd win1-0 by penalties:) and Chelsea win by 1 goal with 2 penalties :bandit:
Mass meltdown <yikes><yikes>:headbang::headbang:
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The Chelsea penalties were both correct decisions, though the 2nd was rather soft.
Rapenaldo's? Not so much. Maguire does worse about 10 times a game.
 
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littleDinosaurLuke said:
Conspiracy theorists brain overload!
City, Liverpool and (possibly) Utd win1-0 by penalties:) and Chelsea win by 1 goal with 2 penalties :bandit:
Mass meltdown <yikes><yikes>:headbang::headbang:
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Or just the big team bias I was talking about. Basic big team bias IMO has the same cause as home team bias; refs want to be liked. On some level, they know which teams have more fans and favor them, just as they want to please the crowd by favoring home teams. They also fear the wrath of the many.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
The Chelsea penalties were both correct decisions, though the 2nd was rather soft.
Rapenaldo's? Not so much. Maguire does worse about 10 times a game.
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I think it's hard to argue that most of the penalties either given for or not given against the favoured teams are correct decisions under the laws. The question is would it be the same decision regardless of what team was involved? That's the insidious nature of the bias. You can look at the same incident and the pundits can argue 'I can see why that was given', whilst the same incident with different teams might get the pundits saying 'I can see why that was not given' and so on. And this is reaching epic proportions now, when you find that teams that are 'miles ahead of all the others' (again according to pundits) are winning games by a penalty.

As for ManU, Ollie lost his job when the penalties dried up.
 
vimhawk said:
I think it's hard to argue that most of the penalties either given for or not given against the favoured teams are correct decisions under the laws. The question is would it be the same decision regardless of what team was involved? That's the insidious nature of the bias. You can look at the same incident and the pundits can argue 'I can see why that was given', whilst the same incident with different teams might get the pundits saying 'I can see why that was not given' and so on. And this is reaching epic proportions now, when you find that teams that are 'miles ahead of all the others' (again according to pundits) are winning games by a penalty.

As for ManU, Ollie lost his job when the penalties dried up.
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Because we were no longer getting players into the box to panic defenders <doh>

It's simple really, teams get penalties by putting the opposition under pressure in the box.
 
vimhawk said:
Sounds logical, but in which case we would have had a huge number of penalties in our best seasons under Poch. Didn't really happen. Wonder why that was?
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IIRC we got 3 across the entirety of 2017-18, by a distance one of our best seasons in the PL and by the same distance a season we spent a huge amount of time camped in and around the opposition half.

Was it because we didn't have a true 'home' crowd?

It's hard not to see narratives everywhere, especially when referees go on record admitting as much. I remember similar when Bale was at the peak of his powers. He dived a couple of times and suddenly had a 'reputation' as a diver. From one week to the next he couldn't buy a free kick or penalty. It was testament to his quality that he achieved what he achieved despite refs up and down the country waving an uninterested hand every time he went to ground.
 
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Citizen Kane. said:
IIRC we got 3 across the entirety of 2017-18, by a distance one of our best seasons in the PL and by the same distance a season we spent a huge amount of time camped in and around the opposition half.

Was it because we didn't have a true 'home' crowd?

It's hard not to see narratives everywhere, especially when referees go on record admitting as much. I remember similar when Bale was at the peak of his powers. He dived a couple of times and suddenly had a 'reputation' as a diver. From one week to the next he couldn't buy a free kick or penalty. It was testament to his quality that he achieved what he achieved despite refs up and down the country waving an uninterested hand every time he went to ground.
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In the 12/13 season we finished 5th, a point behind Arsenal, 3 behind Chelsea and 6 behind City.
We were awarded 0 penalties.
 
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Simple goal for him but really wish we went in for Daka, natural finisher in the box. He’s only gonna get better too. Very good long term Vardy replacement for Leicester.

Him and Haaland both developed at Salzburg and now Adeyemi is the next striker doing the business there, might be worth taking a look at, Salzburg clearly know a thing or two about top young striking talents.
 
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