Aston Villa....the club that had finished well above us in the table for six consecutive seasons before ENIC took over.
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Villa overstretched themselves and went to pot.
ENIC deserve some credit for not doing likewise, but they can't take all of it.
The Midlanders went from pushing for a Champions League place to a failed battle against relegation.
Only 6?
They seemed to always finish above us since the 1800s according to that geezer on the BBC 606 site...holte legends?
...according to that geezer on the BBC 606 site...holte legends?
How dare you pretend not to remember the name of "The big one" .
What does this reflect?
That Villa are ****
Now we are weighing ourselves up with relegation regulars Villa in 2021?
just to give Daniel more empty credit
Here's the biggest issue with "Player X needs to move to win trophies" line pundits trot out: it's what German pundits say whenever Bayern are eyeing up somebody entering the final year of their contract at Dortmund/Schalke/Stuttgart/wherever because, in effect, pundits should be getting agent's fees for transfers. And that's what the pundits are really saying when they say Player X needs to move to win these nebulous trophies, that they "need" to join the club which these pundits more often than not just so happen to be synonymous with from their playing career
It's not dissimilar to how Lo Ladrones' tapping-up machine has whichever relevant player say how a player could become a legend if they head to Franco FC, be it Zidane speaking up if it's a French player they're after, Raul for a Spaniard, John Toshack when they were getting their hooks into Gareth Bale, etc etc etc
That's why there's no pundits mentioning that Man Utd are in the middle of their longest trophy drought in over thirty years so, if the likes of Rashford or Fernandes needs to win something, they need to schlep from one side of Manchester to the other
You want ENIC out but you ignore the fact that they have improved us massively while most other clubs have got no better or worse over that period.
A blind dog with 3 legs could have improved Spurs from where Sugar left us, Spurs have always been one of the traditional big clubs, all ENIC have done is applied a modicum of best business practice and returned us to where we belong among the top 6, hardly an outstanding achievement in the grand scheme of things, some might say they have achieved the bare minimum. In case you have forgotten, football is about glory, silverware, trophies and putting your clubs name into the record books, not average league finishes, improving on the worst owner in our history or balance sheets etc.
Traditional big clubs? The first season I went to all the home games we got relegated. We then spent many seasons in Division 1 where we would carefully look at the table to see if this season, maybe, we might just scrape into the UEFA cup. And as for Sugar being the worse owner, weren't we about to go bankrupt before he took over? But apparently our current position is automatic based on our 'bigness'. Very selective memory.
Had an awful tournament and I don't think Deschamp helped him. Weird selections.Mbappe's two bob
He'll probably claim that uncertainty over his future distracted him now.
Get a nice pay rise from Madrid or a ludicrous one for staying in Paris.
Each of Everton, Aston Villa and Newcastle have all won the league more times than we have and were all doing better than us when ENIC took over. They have done much worse than us since. So perhaps it isn't quite as easy to win trophies as you think.
I know exactly what football is about and I also know that winning trophies isn't about magic. It is about money, hard work and luck. ENIC have massively improved the team but we've not had the luck in crucial matches. All the other "big" clubs who were stuck in mid table with us have not even had a sniff of glory. So I make it 3-1 on that a new owner will be worse.
Are Spurs skint or something? No movement of wanting players to improve us apparently.Could we be looking at relegation? Nooooo! Daniel!
Even West Ham's scouts have picked up some hard workers from the former Soviet Union. Seems to be working!
Even West Ham's scouts have picked up some hard workers from the former Soviet Union. Seems to be working!
Czechoslovakia was never part of the Soviet Union. It was Eastern Bloc and communist run, but not USSR.
Going full Cathy Newman .: so you're saying
that any "blind dog with 3 legs" could have improved
Spurs post Sugar, to hiring managers + funding the purchase of
players that produced the best league form since the height of
St Nicholson, reached CL finals etc ??
If your answer is yes, do you claim it only needs a non blind
dog with 3 legs / blind dog with 4 legs etc to take Spurs to a PL title ??
If your answer is yes, please feel free to post up a gallery of
such dogs for our education ...
Ahh so they’ve done everything right but the only reason Spurs have only won 1 league cup in 20 years is simply down to luck is it? Couldn’t possibly be down to making some wrong decisions as well as some right decisions.
I've said continuously that Levy gets nearly half his decisions wrong. In an area where each decision can actually be measured like trading 53% right gets you world class performance. A lot of traders do much better than that for years on end and a lot do worse. The distribution for efficient markets is actually consistent with most of the outperformance being down to luck.