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Hoping for a Mustafi and Xhaka master class this afternoon. Red cards, own goals, giving away penalties, all of these will be fine.
 
BrunelGooner said:
You're right, but since they last won the league, they have finished 7th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and now they will be 5th or 6th again. They haven't competed in the league or CL since Fergie was there, they are dropping in and out of the Champions League/Europa League spots, there have been well-documented issues both on and off the pitch, and now there is even more competition at the top of the table.

They are literally living proof that it's no good being a huge commercial powerhouse if you don't have a proper strategy and you don't invest wisely.

They will never have that period of dominance again. So if their league positions continue to fluctuate as wildly as they have been, it will not be sustainable.
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United should be competing with Real Madrid and Barcelona to be the most important club in the world. They've got that level of income and worldwide support. Right now, they're nowhere near them. In terms of being a footballing super power, Juventus are arguably equal with them currently and Bayern Munich must be getting a lot closer.

The two Spanish giants are developing their stadiums and are going to seriously invest in premium young talent this summer. United have a dodgy roof on an ageing stadium and a recent record of buying the wrong players at premium prices. It's hard to see Solskjaer out-muscling the other big boys for someone like de Ligt, who they could dearly do with.

It's all looking like it needs overhauling....
 
Arsenal haven't been that good in the PL just recently but now they have an incentive don't they?
 
"Thanks for that Brian" said:
United should be competing with Real Madrid and Barcelona to be the most important club in the world. They've got that level of income and worldwide support. Right now, they're nowhere near them. In terms of being a footballing super power, Juventus are arguably equal with them currently and Bayern Munich must be getting a lot closer.

The two Spanish giants are developing their stadiums and are going to seriously invest in premium young talent this summer. United have a dodgy roof on an ageing stadium and a recent record of buying the wrong players at premium prices. It's hard to see Solskjaer out-muscling the other big boys for someone like de Ligt, who they could dearly do with.

It's all looking like it needs overhauling....
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It shows that success requires all parts of the club to function properly. Everyone with a meaningful role has to perform - from the owners to senior management to the manager and the coaching staff to the players.
Utd presently don't have a joined up strategy for how the club should operate.
There is nobody keeping a proper rein on the purse strings.
Nobody is identifying how players should be recruited and what the pay structure is.
There is no plan about how to develop young players and progress them through the ranks.
There was no plan to appoint a manager with a vision for the club and a blueprint for success (why allow Liverpool to get Klopp?). SAF needed to be succeeded by someone of similar stature.
There has been a knee jerk reaction to transfer policy. Players have not been recruited who have either the ability/quality or diligence/determination to succeed at the level required.
There is only so long that the club can rely on past glories to maintain popularity and therefore income streams.
Soon association with Manchester Utd will be identified as failure.
In our narcissistic world, no fans want to be associated with failure.
 
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littleDinosaurLuke said:
It shows that success requires all parts of the club to function properly. Everyone with a meaningful role has to perform - from the owners to senior management to the manager and the coaching staff to the players.
Utd presently don't have a joined up strategy for how the club should operate.
There is nobody keeping a proper rein on the purse strings.
Nobody is identifying how players should be recruited and what the pay structure is.
There is no plan about how to develop young players and progress them through the ranks.
There was no plan to appoint a manager with a vision for the club and a blueprint for success (why allow Liverpool to get Klopp?). SAF needed to be succeeded by someone of similar stature.
There has been a knee jerk reaction to transfer policy. Players have not been recruited who have either the ability/quality or diligence/determination to succeed at the level required.
There is only so long that the club can rely on past glories to maintain popularity and therefore income streams.
Soon association with Manchester Utd will be identified as failure.
In our narcissistic world, no fans want to be associated with failure.
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To answer one of your points Luke it was SAF's choice to appoint Moyes so basically, for that, the failure can be blamed on Ferguson. Success like that is impossible to follow.
 
Strange.Brighton fight to the death against us....then give away a 9th minute penalty to Arsenal. Go figure!
 
bigsmithy9 said:
Strange.Brighton fight to the death against us....then give away a 9th minute penalty to Arsenal. Go figure!
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It's easy to figure, we're not playing that much better than Brighton, our recent results and play are both relegation form.
 
Am in Brighton with my teen beast to see my uni kid....and meet her gooner boyfriend <doh>
The drag factor is killing the RCL effect <wah>
 
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