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I imagine a dinner table and sitting around it Abramovich, Mourinho, Van Gaal, Wenger, Avram Grant, Benitez, being waited on by Sam Allardyce.

These people are not fun, all it would need to complete would be Marlon Brando as the Godfather. "You come to my house!"
 
The only thing really annoying me at the moment
is that Spurs have little hope of finishing above Citeh.

I would love Spurs to better both of the big-spending
Manc PL messiahs, but I can live with Spurs finishing
above Man Utd again (Burnley doing the same would
be the cherry on the cake) .
 
Brentford actually went and won, despite doing their usual of trying to **** it up. Well deserved really.

Onomah was pretty good again, don't know why he doesn't start for Villa but we could certainly use him with Dembele a fading force.
 
Just seen MOTD and unfortunately I've got to agree with Moyes, who was pointing out the inconsistency in giving red cards. His player gets kicked in the face but the Bournemouth player gets a yellow, presumably because it was deemed to be accidental as the offending player was tracking the ball. But he says that he had a player sent off who was tracking the ball and elbowed someone (that was Carroll so perhaps that makes a difference, though it shouldn't really if we're being fair). I don't have any answers but I know that as long as the authorities ignore this issue then the "subjective" view of refs will very much depend on what teams are playing. In other words I very much see a Bournemouth player being sent off for exactly the same offence if they committed it at ManU or ManC.

Another strange thing which may or not be true, but I'm just asking, is whether you are more likely to get a red for a swing of the arm than a boot. Surely this doesn't make much logical sense as are you not potentially going to do more damage with a boot? But we have the situation where Dave gets sent off for something pretty innocuous - well unlikely to do much damage anyway, while we have lots of examples of boots connecting to faces that get only yellows. Just wondering, because it appears that the severity of the challenge does not reflect the severity of the punishment.
 
Just seen MOTD and unfortunately I've got to agree with Moyes, who was pointing out the inconsistency in giving red cards. His player gets kicked in the face but the Bournemouth player gets a yellow, presumably because it was deemed to be accidental as the offending player was tracking the ball. But he says that he had a player sent off who was tracking the ball and elbowed someone (that was Carroll so perhaps that makes a difference, though it shouldn't really if we're being fair). I don't have any answers but I know that as long as the authorities ignore this issue then the "subjective" view of refs will very much depend on what teams are playing. In other words I very much see a Bournemouth player being sent off for exactly the same offence if they committed it at ManU or ManC.

Another strange thing which may or not be true, but I'm just asking, is whether you are more likely to get a red for a swing of the arm than a boot. Surely this doesn't make much logical sense as are you not potentially going to do more damage with a boot? But we have the situation where Dave gets sent off for something pretty innocuous - well unlikely to do much damage anyway, while we have lots of examples of boots connecting to faces that get only yellows. Just wondering, because it appears that the severity of the challenge does not reflect the severity of the punishment.

They got robbed with the equaliser too..Wilson got not one but two touches...lol
 
Just seen MOTD and unfortunately I've got to agree with Moyes, who was pointing out the inconsistency in giving red cards. His player gets kicked in the face but the Bournemouth player gets a yellow, presumably because it was deemed to be accidental as the offending player was tracking the ball. But he says that he had a player sent off who was tracking the ball and elbowed someone (that was Carroll so perhaps that makes a difference, though it shouldn't really if we're being fair). I don't have any answers but I know that as long as the authorities ignore this issue then the "subjective" view of refs will very much depend on what teams are playing. In other words I very much see a Bournemouth player being sent off for exactly the same offence if they committed it at ManU or ManC.

Another strange thing which may or not be true, but I'm just asking, is whether you are more likely to get a red for a swing of the arm than a boot. Surely this doesn't make much logical sense as are you not potentially going to do more damage with a boot? But we have the situation where Dave gets sent off for something pretty innocuous - well unlikely to do much damage anyway, while we have lots of examples of boots connecting to faces that get only yellows. Just wondering, because it appears that the severity of the challenge does not reflect the severity of the punishment.

Really valid points...but as it's them I can not find it in myself to give a feck <laugh>
 
Just seen MOTD and unfortunately I've got to agree with Moyes, who was pointing out the inconsistency in giving red cards. His player gets kicked in the face but the Bournemouth player gets a yellow, presumably because it was deemed to be accidental as the offending player was tracking the ball. But he says that he had a player sent off who was tracking the ball and elbowed someone (that was Carroll so perhaps that makes a difference, though it shouldn't really if we're being fair). I don't have any answers but I know that as long as the authorities ignore this issue then the "subjective" view of refs will very much depend on what teams are playing. In other words I very much see a Bournemouth player being sent off for exactly the same offence if they committed it at ManU or ManC.

Another strange thing which may or not be true, but I'm just asking, is whether you are more likely to get a red for a swing of the arm than a boot. Surely this doesn't make much logical sense as are you not potentially going to do more damage with a boot? But we have the situation where Dave gets sent off for something pretty innocuous - well unlikely to do much damage anyway, while we have lots of examples of boots connecting to faces that get only yellows. Just wondering, because it appears that the severity of the challenge does not reflect the severity of the punishment.

For me, and I'd stress that I'm not a referee and it's just my personal view.....

Carroll and Mane's challenges were more dangerous because they were in motion when they collided with the opposition player. That must make it more likely to cause injury. The challenge at Bournemouth was by a player with a planted standing foot and no momentum or force to the challenge. It's been a while since I was kicked in the head but I'm of the view that I'd prefer that type of challenge to someone doing it at pace.......but sticking your foot up that high with the studs showing is still dangerous.....see, I've already changed my mind.
 
I just watched a programme called The Lane and I have to admit I got tears in my eyes at certain points.....then some s.o.b. started singing Glory,Glory.... and that did me in!
Just as well. I've had a touch of dry eye lately.......!

It was on bt sports straight after we lost to city. Listening to players like Graham Roberts, Hoddle, Perryman, Ossie, Villa, Jennings, Chivers talking about the fans making WHL home was great. It brought back so many childhood memories of a place that gave me my happiest times as a teen.
Shame our DoF doesn't understand what we as fans are worth.
 
Just seen MOTD and unfortunately I've got to agree with Moyes, who was pointing out the inconsistency in giving red cards. His player gets kicked in the face but the Bournemouth player gets a yellow, presumably because it was deemed to be accidental as the offending player was tracking the ball. But he says that he had a player sent off who was tracking the ball and elbowed someone (that was Carroll so perhaps that makes a difference, though it shouldn't really if we're being fair). I don't have any answers but I know that as long as the authorities ignore this issue then the "subjective" view of refs will very much depend on what teams are playing. In other words I very much see a Bournemouth player being sent off for exactly the same offence if they committed it at ManU or ManC.

Another strange thing which may or not be true, but I'm just asking, is whether you are more likely to get a red for a swing of the arm than a boot. Surely this doesn't make much logical sense as are you not potentially going to do more damage with a boot? But we have the situation where Dave gets sent off for something pretty innocuous - well unlikely to do much damage anyway, while we have lots of examples of boots connecting to faces that get only yellows. Just wondering, because it appears that the severity of the challenge does not reflect the severity of the punishment.
We have also seen an example of a kick in the face of a player standing up that did not even get a yellow
 
Just seen Mourinho's comments properly. We've had collection buckets for Charlton and Leyton Orient outside the ground when they were in dire need, perhaps we need one for United, poor lads can barely spend £200mill in a transfer window these days.
 
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All managers want more money and to be bringing new players in. There's nothing wrong in pleading for more funds from your board of directors, if truth be known then managers are doing it all the time.
However, there are "proper" ways of going about this, and it's a poor show from Mourinho to be doing it in this manner and only increases the dislike felt for him.
There was a time when I privately quite admired him and had some respect for his achievements in the game. Now I find myself viewing him as a bitter person who can't take it when things are not going his way. His constant stroppy behaviour endears him to no-one and a great institution such as Manchester United should have a manager who shows more civilised behaviour than Mourinho has.
 
Moronho has already started criticizing his players and asked for even more money to spend on upgrading his squad, it won`t be long before he loses the dressing room.