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humanbeingincroydon said:
They really are obsessed with us, aren't they?
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It's laughably pitiful. Make up song to hail your record signing and use it to have an anti-semitic dig at Spurs. Like West Ham, they are nothing without us and the success of their season seems to be defined by how their results impact our final position in the table. Every linked causality is celebrated, no matter how flimsy.
 
remembercolinlee said:
Would this be the same Baddiel who once showed a lot of pictures of spurs players holding their arms out (on his Fantasy football show in the 1990s) to make a joke of how Jewish they looked?
Or would it be the David Baddiel who show a clip of Ronnie Rosential (Israeli) not passing to Jurgen Klinnsman (German) and said Ronnie should remember the war was over a long time ago?
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If it's the David Baddiel who hasn't made anyone laugh since 1988, then yes - that David Baddiel.
 
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P4 W0 D0 L4 F0 A7

Doesn't look good for F De Boer does it?

First top flight team to lose their opening 4 games without scoring since Preston North End in 1924-25 <yikes>
 
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Spurlock said:
He's never getting Crystal Palace to play the Ajax way...lol...how naive.
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It's a complete reversal of the Allardyce football that kept them up. Parish also didn't do his new manager any favours with the relatively humble pocket money he gave him in the summer. But then again, De Boer did himself no favours by spending it all on defenders. They are clearly missing Zaha going forward, but Benteke is a shadow of the player he was at Villa.

No point sacking FDB in my opinion. The squad lacks quality in almost every area and he wasn't given the money to fix it.
 
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Citizen Kane said:
It's a complete reversal of the Allardyce football that kept them up.
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And I think that this is the main issue.
Could De Boer get Palace playing like Ajax? Maybe, but it would take years.
That being so, why give the job to someone so completely different to Allardyce?

It's something that a lot of clubs do wrong, in my opinion.
We did it for years, replacing positive, attack-minded managers with negative ones and vice versa.
We also alternated between British-style coaches and continental ones.
Every new appointment had to start from scratch and change everything.

Swansea's recent rise to the Premier League was the complete opposite.
They changed managers repeatedly, but brought in people with a similar style of play every time.
It gave the club an on-pitch identity and lessened the impact of each change.
They abandoned that by bringing in Guidolin and it's been chaos ever since.
 
Far too much at stake for those clubs financially to
take the risk of finding a Pochettino among every ten
non-star overseas managers.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
And I think that this is the main issue.
Could De Boer get Palace playing like Ajax? Maybe, but it would take years.
That being so, why give the job to someone so completely different to Allardyce?

It's something that a lot of clubs do wrong, in my opinion.
We did it for years, replacing positive, attack-minded managers with negative ones and vice versa.
We also alternated between British-style coaches and continental ones.
Every new appointment had to start from scratch and change everything.

Swansea's recent rise to the Premier League was the complete opposite.
They changed managers repeatedly, but brought in people with a similar style of play every time.
It gave the club an on-pitch identity and lessened the impact of each change.
They abandoned that by bringing in Guidolin and it's been chaos ever since.
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It's definitely a recurring problem amongst clubs run by people who are supposed to know the abc's of football.

Also makes Fergie's hand-picking of Moyes all the more baffling. Other than perhaps Jaques Santini, he couldn't have picked a more diametrically opposite successor.

It was similarly insane that Everton replaced Moyes with Martinez. The footballing equivalent of asking Graham Norton to 'just stand in' for Liam Neeson.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
And I think that this is the main issue.
Could De Boer get Palace playing like Ajax? Maybe, but it would take years.
That being so, why give the job to someone so completely different to Allardyce?

It's something that a lot of clubs do wrong, in my opinion.
We did it for years, replacing positive, attack-minded managers with negative ones and vice versa.
We also alternated between British-style coaches and continental ones.
Every new appointment had to start from scratch and change everything.

Swansea's recent rise to the Premier League was the complete opposite.
They changed managers repeatedly, but brought in people with a similar style of play every time.
It gave the club an on-pitch identity and lessened the impact of each change.
They abandoned that by bringing in Guidolin and it's been chaos ever since.
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The 'c' word is worth mentioning again.
Continuity is so important.
Spurs are a great example in the past few seasons. Same manager, same main group of players who are progressing together, same approach to youth development and (dare I say it) same transfers and wages policy.
If you have to change manager, then you don't want to appoint a successor who will result in wholesale changes across the entire club.
Palace had a definite tactical plan under Allardyce. The players' roles were drilled into them and they played better as they settled in to these roles and gained confidence. De Boer arrives and it's a completely different method and set of roles. Most players aren't that adaptable so quickly.
 
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Citizen Kane said:
It's laughably pitiful. Make up song to hail your record signing and use it to have an anti-semitic dig at Spurs. Like West Ham, they are nothing without us and the success of their season seems to be defined by how their results impact our final position in the table. Every linked causality is celebrated, no matter how flimsy.
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It's like how their fans are camped on the club's Twitter, ready to make snide comments about "pressure" at every opportunity or how we're bottling a match as it's 0-0 at kickoff.

It's the same mentality as Trump supporters or Britait voters: they got their victory, but think it gives them the right to rub the runners ups noses in it months afterwards no matter how small-minded and insecure it makes them look and sound.
 
"Thanks for that Brian" said:
It's hard to think too many positive questions to which the answer is "Roy Hodgson"...............apart from "Which Liverpool manager's reign did you enjoy most before Jurgen Klopp's defensively confused one?"
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"Which England manager looked most like an owl?"
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Seems to be a nice enough bloke and he had a very respectable career, but I think his day is done and he should retire, honestly.
Allardyce's decision to leave the game has resulted in someone eight years older than him getting the job.
 
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Palace have had 7 managers in 6 years. Considering that they have spent the last 5 seasons in the PL (a club record) and the previous season getting promoted, that is unfathomable.

The club is trying to update the stadium but just can't seem to get the stability needed to commit a large sum of money on works to build something that could be over half empty in the Championship. It's the West Ham dilemma without the political back-handers.

Mostly, they spend their money on Wilfried Zaha's ridiculous wages, over-priced Liverpool misfits and managerial pay-offs.
 
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