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  1. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Don't get me wrong TMT. This Chelsea side has its problems and the title would be a complete write off if we were up against a top class side like Arsenal 02-04, Us 04-06 or United 07-09 but thankfully were not. I've already made my views on the current Premier League era clear so won't elaborate further but you get what I mean.


    Top half of the Premier League last season. Scary.
     
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  2. The Mighty Thor

    The Mighty Thor Well-Known Member

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    District I'm going to stick my neck out and say that your main problem is the man who's come back...Mourinho.
     
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  3. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Err, no they haven't.

    Pretty much the only players that come to the top Premier League clubs now are:

    - Spanish players at cut prices that can't get in Real Madrid or Barca's team and are disillusioned with the state of their league.

    - Benfica/Porto's best players

    - Brazilians exiled in Eastern Europe.

    - Players in Serie A that Juve don't want or can't afford

    Mata, Hazard, Oscar were not top players when we bought them, they were talented young players that have blossomed into better players and are still not yet the finished product.

    You continually point out Chelsea and City's spending but fail to acknowledge your side that started against us cost just under £170m which was coincidentally £30-£35m more expensive than the side we put out against you.
     
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  4. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Entitled to your opinion TMT but for me the main problem is what it has been for the last few years, lack of a top striker. Until that issue gets addressed this team will always have another gear to reach. With the quality of this current Premier League, we may not need a 20-25 goal a season striker but we will need the midfielders and everybody else to pull their weight.
     
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  5. Spurm

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    1 - when is pochey-what's-his-face (Southampton) gonna do an interview in English
    2 - fat Sam just referred to Collins as 'ginge', lol
     
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  6. The Mighty Thor

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    District, have you ever wondered who will take over if Mourinho's sacked this year?
     
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  7. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I don't think he will be sacked this year TMT. There'd be nobody left anyway <laugh>
     
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  8. The Mighty Thor

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    Andre was sacked because he had the gall of guiding Chelsea to fifth place in February and he wasn't allowed to prove himself so if you're in a similar position with Jose then yes he could be. Ancelotti was after winning you the double ffs so Jose is far from safe especially after what I perceive as a stuttering start for you. I recall Jose and Chelsea winning by five or six goals at the start of the season not this scratchy load of old fido that you're dishing up at the moment. If you lose your CL match then already ripples of concern will be going through RA's mind.
     
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  9. notsosmartspur

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  10. The Mighty Thor

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    He's bang on right there too. There's no way that he should go back to Man U because amongst other things Moyes isn't a big enough name for him, bit of a minnow in fact. Man U isn't only his past, the whole set up without Ferguson is past.
     
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  11. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    United will be strong now but 2-3 years down the line RVP, Carrick, Rooney, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Giggs will all need replacing. How is Moyes going to find or attract the right calibre of player to do that? It's going to be a real challenge for him for sure. I'm nor saying it'll go the same way but this situation has startling similarities to Liverpool in the early 90s.

    Not signing Ozil will come back to bite Moyes on the backside.
     
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  12. The Mighty Thor

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    District, I've just opened my laptop and was about to post the self same thing as you. When Ferguson took over they were second bottom and struggling and what goes around comes around.
     
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  13. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Fair play to Moyes but for me it still beggars belief he managed to blag his way into the one of the biggest jobs in sport on the back of taking Everton to where they should be (people hasten to forget Moyes almost relegated them as well).

    The media can try and undersell the significance of having a winning manager all they want but sooner or later it will tell. Players (particularly younger ones) will never doubt the ability or methods of a manager that has been there and won it's all before, they'll put the work in because they know they'll get something out of it as was the case with Fergie.

    Moyes will get off lightly if he doesn't win anything this year partly due to the World Cup, expected departure of Arsene Wenger + Frank Lampard/John Terry/Ashley Cole and other big names but if he doesn't win anything next year that's when the pressure will really be on.
     
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  14. The Mighty Thor

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    I still think Jose will end up there District. I don't think Moyes will win anything as Utd have stuttered too.

    On another subject Stephen Gerrard has received abuse and threats ahead of the match against Swansea ie children hurt and house burned down. Christ almighty the lengths some people go because of football. The club aren't taking it seriously but I'd have that penis locked away in a secure psychiatric hospital.
     
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  15. littleDinosaurLuke

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    I don't disagree with a lot of this.

    However, Real Madrid and Barcelona can only buy so many players and the likes of Mata, Hazard, Negredo and Navas have been touted as world class players, who have had many clubs chasing them. Whether they are as good as those at other top European sides is arguable, but City and Chelsea are stronger for signing them according to the pundits, aren't they?

    What Utd have spent on players compared to Chelsea is irrelevant when you take into account fees for Rio, Rooney, Carrick, Vidic, Evra etc who have been at the club 7+ years. How many multi-million pound players have you bought and discarded in that time? You've spent £800M under Abramovich so you won't have included the signings of Shevchenko, del Horno, Marin, Zhirkov, Deco, Malouda, Bosingwa, Boulahrouz, Benayoun and Torres, of course, to name a few hundred millions worth!
     
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  16. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    This is the thread where we can watch our rivals beat each other up. <laugh>

    In the blue corner................District Line


    In the red corner.................littleDinosaurLuke

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  17. Spursguru

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    As an aside - G Nev just got ripped on by Carragher

    "full backs are either failed wingers, or failed Center backs. No Kid growing up wants to be a Garry Neville".

    <laugh>
     
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  18. No Kane No Gain

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    1-0 Shelvey.

    That'll shut Carragher up :D
     
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  19. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Ex-player coming back to haunt them very quickly. Interesting to see how they respond.
     
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  20. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    And Shelvey makes it 1-1 inexplicably playing a through ball into Sturridge to score. Dear, oh dear!
     
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