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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. Tobes

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    I doubt he did tbf, but he did want to go to Barca though, who ended up paying £75m a year later.
     
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    Interesting.
     
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    Somebody certainly is, but I don't believe it's who you think it is
     
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  4. Tobes

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    Given you think that a club offering more than a release clause wouldn't legally trigger a release clause (which wouldn’t happen anyway, as the agent would inform the prospective buyer of the value of the clause) I’ve already filed your view tbh. Cheers.
     
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    Why are you so hostile to any rival fan?
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    Given that somebody in a position to say one way or another with this thing known as "authority" has stated that to be the case, that holds a bit more weight than your opinion does
     
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    Just the ones who talk crap
     
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    7 medical professionals had up for homicide over Maradona's death.
     
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    If you think a buyout clause wouldn’t be triggered by someone putting more than the legally contracted figure on the table, then you literally haven’t got a clue, so it’s not a difference in opinion at all.
     
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    Shearer says City will give Kane many trophies. Will he have to play or will they carry them out to him?
     
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    Bit of both. Just like when Shearer joined Man Utd. Oh, wait...
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    So you're saying that Suarez had a buyout clause now?

    Because you were saying that he didn't and John W Henry imagined it before, which is why I have to ask

    The fact remains that Suarez had the clause in his contract, Arsenal bid above it, and the clause did not activate. That is a summary of events which have taken place
     
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    I was actually referring to your comment on the previous page that I originally replied to;

    It's similar to how Liverpool paid above Naby Keita's release clause, which meant that Monster Energy Dusseldorf could keep him for the season whereas if they paid the release clause he'd have left immediately

    It's an odd quirk in how they're structured that paying a pound over the stated fee doesn't trigger the clause or allows the selling club to change the terms

    Which is both completely factually incorrect in terms of Keita, and abject nonsense in terms of the idea that a buyout clause being EXCEEDED somehow voids it.

    As for Henry he was merely posturing and poking Arsenal in the ribs. You can’t simply ignore contractual agreement clauses that you don’t like in retrospect. There was no buyout clause as was obvious at the time and has been confirmed by both Wenger and the agents since. You’ve not posted any facts btw, merely reiterating nonsense and claiming it to be factual doesn’t make it so.
     
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    In other words, you're changing the subject because the other thing you insist on stomping in her to argue about has the slight issue of me being able to back up exactly what I am talking about and am able to provide these things known as "sources"

    What next? Claiming your club is having financial difficulties that necessitate them joining the ESL?
     
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  15. Tobes

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    I haven’t changed any subject, that was the subject and you then tried to take it off at a tangent.

    You haven’t provided anything whatsoever that backs up a word of the quote of yours that I posted above. You should read it again, as you appear to be trying to defend a different point to the one you originally made and I replied to.

    The Keita story is just pure bollocks his release clause didn’t become active until the year after Liverpool agreed a fee for him. Then the idea that a release clause wouldn’t be triggered if a club put more cash on the table than the exact amount specified in the contract is utterly ludicrous from a legal perspective. They’re just facts btw, allow them to permeate your noggin, maybe have a lie down and stick on some whale music as they seep into your grey stuff.

    You seem to have this problem a lot, you post something, then go rambling on about something else, and subsequently forget your initial assertion, which when pulled up on it, you then deny. It’s tedious in the extreme.
     
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    So you suddenly going on about Keita after I'd repeatedly told you that, when John W Henry says that Luis Suarez has a release clause that means he probably had a release clause, isn't you changing the subject? That's funny, it looks remarkably like you changing the subject to me

    But let's talk about these "facts", eh? For example, when I can provide a quote from John W Henry stating that Luis Suarez had a release clause in his contract, the one thing that nobody should do if they expect to be taken seriously is come up with some cock and bull story that he did so just to troll Arsenal in the press

    Now who did that, eh?

    Now how about you take a lie down and consider that, when your argument rests on calling Liverpool's owner a liar because you obviously know better than him, it's not exactly the best grounds for an argument and also the sort of thing that might cause you to consider trying to change the subject when it slowly dawns on you just how doolally that sounds and hope that nobody notices, which is a little problematic since the horse has already bolted on that one

    Now toddle off back to your club's dead board
     
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    You’re all over the place trying to flog a dead horse, your original assertion (the one i quoted) is quite simply wrong.

    If you want to convince yourself that it isn’t, then no amount of actual facts are going to shift you from your ill informed position, and I’ve got better things to do to be quite frank.

    I won’t ‘toddle off’ anywhere btw, I’ll post where I like, this is a multi club forum, not a single club echo chamber. If you don’t like that, or can’t accept it, then it’s maybe you who should ‘toddle off’. You’ve been aggressive and abusive since the first time I replied to you a week or 2 back, as you patently don’t like being challenged, here’s the thing. If you post factually incorrect assertions then expect to get called out on them and corrected, if you can’t handle that try actually researching what you’re professing to be fact, before posting it.
     
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    How am I "all over a place" if I have consistently stuck to the exact same argument? You're the one flailing around like a balloon that somebody let go of, spinning out of control while letting out a lot of hot air

    You keep using the word "facts" yet, when they don't fit with your argument - for example, John W Henry stating that Luis Suarez had a release clause - you have to come up with one cock and bull story after another to square it away in your mind, even though when you're coming up with stories you simply cannot support such as Henry trolling Arsenal and have been unable to back them up at all, which is why I keep coming back to it. Funny how that works, isn't it? When somebody clearly makes something up, they get called out on it. If you think that isn't what should happen, may I suggest you send your CV to the BBC, as Laura Kuenssberg would be happy to speak with likeminded individuals such as yourself

    And here's another one of these "facts" you keep talking about yet apparently have no understanding of the word: this board isn't an echo chamber, unlike your club's dead board which literally echoes due to it having less activity on it than the Terracotta Army boot camp, as a cursory check of it which would have taken you a whole two minutes will reveal there's fans of Arsenal and Chelsea who regularly chat with the regulars here (as well as a couple of Man Utd fans we'd rather didn't, but that's not important right now) so you trying to make out this board is something it clearly is not as the basis of...something, well, it's not the first time you tried claiming you knew more about a subject than somebody better placed to tell you exactly what something is or isn't, is it?
     
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  19. Tobes

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    You know how the law works right?

    John Henry tried to convince the public that Suarez did indeed have a release clause in his contract and that Liverpool simply ignored it. You think Suarez team including their lawyers would have allowed a clause in a legally binding contract to be simply ignored by one party? You don’t think they’d have merely threatened legal action to enforce it? But of course, he’s telling the truth and all of the other parties involved who’ve admitted there was no actual buyout clause are lying.

    The rest of that is just yet more snide jibes, which you seemingly specialise in. For the purposes of clarity I wasn’t talking about any other members of this board apart from YOU. As it’s YOU who’ve dished out abuse and ad hominem to me since my first post on here. I’ve resisted the urge to respond in kind merely based on where I’m posting and respect for this board and it’s mods, if you want my unfiltered opinion on you, feel free to pop over to the PL board.
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    You know how sentences work, right?

    For example, when John W Henry states that Luis Suarez had a release clause in his contract, it is more than reasonable to expect somebody to read that sentence, process the information, and then respond along the lines of thinking or saying "Hmm, I guess that means Luis Suarez had a release clause in his contract"

    What is not reasonable is to respond by saying that Henry is "chatting bollocks" or to come up with some bizarre fantasy where he pretends that Suarez had a release clause in his contract for the sole purpose of trolling Arsenal via the media

    How many times have I repeated this exact same thing to you now? Five, six times? Hardly "all over the place", is it?

    Also, would you kindly remind me who posted the following sentence: They’re just facts btw, allow them to permeate your noggin, maybe have a lie down and stick on some whale music as they seep into your grey stuff.

    Is that one of the "snide jibes" you were talking about?

    So not only are you making up stories to fit your own narrative, both about John W Henry's motives for saying why Luis Suarez had a release clause and about this forum because you assumed it was exactly the same as your club's dead board, you're now throwing hypocrisy into the dumpster fire that is your argument

    If you want to monologue, I can give you directions to Speaker's Corner
     
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