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BrunelGooner said:
Let's assume that I agree with what you're saying. The shot from Chamberlain looked like it was going in anyway and seeing as Koscielny couldn't move from his position, it would have been harsh to rule it out. Common sense prevailed here in any case.
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What does common sense have to do with it? He's offside and he makes contact with the ball.
There's nothing harsh about it or any leeway with the decision and it's not about intention. It's offside.
BrunelGooner said:
That depends on what you define as an unnatural position. He couldn't control where he put his arms when Chamberlain took the shot.
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His arms are up in the air and away from his sides. It's clearly an unnatural position.
If a defender had his arms up like that and blocked a shot, then it would be a penalty.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
What does common sense have to do with it? He's offside and he makes contact with the ball.
There's nothing harsh about it or any leeway with the decision and it's not about intention. It's offside.
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PNP. We can argue about this all day long, but honestly, I think the goal was fine and it would have been harsh to rule it out.

His arms are up in the air and away from his sides. It's clearly an unnatural position.
If a defender had his arms up like that and blocked a shot, then it would be a penalty.
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I'm not sure how you can state this so assertively when there are players who have been culpable of this numerous times, right in front of the referee, yet no penalty has been given. Your hands being away from your side when you're defending doesn't necessarily mean your hands are in an unnatural position. It's not as clear cut as this.
 
BrunelGooner said:
PNP. We can argue about this all day long, but honestly, I think the goal was fine and it would have been harsh to rule it out.

I'm not sure how you can state this so assertively when there are players who have been culpable of this numerous times, right in front of the referee, yet no penalty has been given. Your hands being away from your side when you're defending doesn't necessarily mean your hands are in an unnatural position. It's not as clear cut as this.
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You can debate the handball if you want, but I have no idea what your point is supposed to be about him being offside.
He's in an offside position, the ball's played forward and he makes contact with it. That's it. It's offside.
He doesn't have to intend to touch the ball. He's clearly interfering with play, as he bloody scored.
 
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BrunelGooner said:
Are you serious?

Oxlade-Chamberlain kicks the ball at Koscielny, it hits his face then hits his hand it goes into the net. Koscielny had absolutely no idea about it. It would have been farcical to chalk that off. Not only was it an accidental riccochet, the player himself didn't even know about it until Ox spoke to him after.

In answer to your question: if a player has taken a shot, and it riccochets off the player's body and onto their hand, what exactly can you do about that? I would be totally fine if someone kept that out at the other end because you simply can't get out the way of it.
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If chamberlain kicked it onto his hand then Koscielny was offside.
 
The RDBD said:
What, that Sterling was not wearing an all-red kit when he went to ground all game ??
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We had the luck when it mattered though didn't we? I'm not complaining. If Arsenal needed an injury time handball to win at Burnley they might have problems away at better teams.

As to an offside or handball there are replays to show if the ball crossed the line or not so why not for this sort of incident?
 
D.G.C. said:
Just seen that our next FOUR matches are away, ooh, painful. I'm frowning.
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It's worse than that. Of our next 10 games in all competition, then 8 are away. Should we win at Anfield in the League Cup and then be drawn away, then 9 of our next 11 games will be away.
 
O.Spurcat said:
It's worse than that. Of our next 10 games in all competition, then 8 are away. Should we win at Anfield in the League Cup and then be drawn away, then 9 of our next 11 games will be away.
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Could make or break us, in fact it would make or break any team.
 
O.Spurcat said:
It's worse than that. Of our next 10 games in all competition, then 8 are away. Should we win at Anfield in the League Cup and then be drawn away, then 9 of our next 11 games will be away.
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No problem.
IMHO the boys play well away, and the away support is less of a burden on
the players when things are not going to plan than WHL can be.
 
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City's next match is at home to Everton. It's a difficult one to predict isn't it? Is today the start of a slump for City because 6 straight wins put pressure on them to maintain that form whereas we've dropped points so the pressure isn't as great. Also with that run have they played their best football at the beginning of the season when it's much better to play your best football at the end?

Everybody said that Spurs hadn't really found their stride and so now it seems that they have and it's better to find it 7 matches in than to find it and then lose it after 6 matches which may very well be what will now happen to City. We could be top next week.
 
D.G.C. said:
City's next match is at home to Everton. It's a difficult one to predict isn't it? Is today the start of a slump for City because 6 straight wins put pressure on them to maintain that form whereas we've dropped points so the pressure isn't as great.
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Citeh will be there or thereabouts. Pep will see to that.

Phil McNulty summed Spurs up perfectly last week : steady but not spectacular.
We know there is far more to come from this squad just based on last season.
Which should have the alarm bells ringing for every team having to play this
alleged great football already, just to stay with Spurs on pts/GD.
 
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The RDBD said:
Citeh will be there or thereabouts. Pep will see to that.

Phil McNulty summed Spurs up perfectly last week : steady but not spectacular.
We know there is far more to come from this squad just based on last season.
Which should have the alarm bells ringing for every team having to play this
alleged great football already, just to stay with Spurs on pts/GD.
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What I saw today in City was NOT title winners. Come the January transfer window we don't need anyone, not sure about the others.
 
O.Spurcat said:
Even after today, I would still expect Citeh to finish no lower than 2nd.
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We've seen how Mourinho isn't a man to lead in a crisis as we saw at Chelsea and he's already making excuses at Utd. I'm also wondering the same about Pep. For me he hasn't been truly tested in a crisis i.e. City start to drop too many points and he starts to panic. Let's just wait and see.
 
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