Conveniently forgetting Reid's and Payer's dives while both were on bookings. The former's dive led to a penalty.
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Conveniently forgetting Reid's and Payer's dives while both were on bookings. The former's dive led to a penalty.
Reid's dive!
So that's a dive, but Vardy's wasn't, according to you?
In my opinion, a number of Spurs fans are being very blinkered and the indignation shown is personal due to it being Vardy and Leicester rather than being against diving in general. If Kane did the same in the next game for example, I expect you'd all be jumping to his defence and be in an uproar if he was sent off as the general train of thought seems to be that everything should go in Spurs favour. I doubt many of you would come on and say as I have with Vardy, that it was a dive
What are you basing this on?
Bale dived for us and he was heavily criticised for it on here.
Rose still does it sometimes and I find it utterly infuriating.
I think that the opposite is true, to be honest.
If a West Ham player had been on the receiving end of this, then I doubt that Hodgson would've mentioned it.
It would've been forgotten about in the first ten minutes after the final whistle had been blown.
You should read my post on the last page. I talked about the Gareth Bale syndrome. Because he dived a few times and won free kicks, Refs identified him as a diver and after that, even if he was fouled it was given as a dive. I'm admitting that Bale dived a few times and got a bad name for himself. Just as Vardy has now. Not blinkered at all.
I didn't say all of you, just as all Leicester fans don't defend Vardy (like myself). I just think a lot of the resentment is fuelled by our respective positions in the league. And if you got away with something similar with Kane or Alli at the weekend, not a lot of your fans would complain if he got away with it as it would dent your chances to lose a key player. I'm questioning basically where principles and morals are more important than team success. I'll hold my hand up and say that I wouldn't have lost any sleep if Vardy had gotten away with it
I'm not sure there would have been much said about Vardy if he had just gotten on with it or if there was no one defending vardy.
Its the fact there are a large number of pundits, leicester fans, roy that are defending vardy for what he did is where there has been a massive debate because there shouldn't even be a debate as to what vardy did. He dived, he got sent off, end of story and its only because there are a large majority of leicester fans (not including yourself) that felt there was a massive injustice
Reid's dive!
You're not going to deny that it was a dive, are you?
Vardy instigated contact with the opponent. No penalty, no dive.
Reid just falls over. No penalty. Dive.
Mate it doesn't offend one bit, just makes me laugh, I somewhat visualise an adult sitting there typing the word Spud while thinking they're insulting us and so it just amuses me.
Pretty sure Klinsmann never dived for pens with Spurs, did he? In fact I don't think he actually dived when playing for us at all (other than the celebrations
), if I'm wrong though by all means correct me because I hate diving, when Bale went through a period of theatrics he was slated by every single one of us on here.Wasn't Harry clipped for the West Ham penalty? Didn't Alex Song catch the back of his foot or leg? I sit in the opposite end of the stadium from where that happened and It's been a while since I've seen it on TV though so I'd have to re-watch and then comment on that but I'll be completely honest if I think he's dived or not.
You're claim of righteous indignation is incorrect in my opinion, I think you're ignoring the fact that you're on the Spurs board in the "Rival Watch" section, this is where we're naturally going to speak of things that involves others players and clubs, especially ones around us in the table, whether it's to praise or criticise them. We've criticised Vardy for his antics against West Ham yet massively praised his form this season, just like we've praised Huth for being solid yet I'll still call him lucky not to have been sent off in games - check our team of the season thread, Huth, Vardy, Kante and Mahrez pretty much make 99% of our selected XI's. We're equally critical of our own players though if they've wronged but you'll find those comments in our match day threads.
I understand that. Everybody is entitled to an opinion and if some people like Roy (and I hate the guy) think there was an argument for neither penalty or dive I respect that. I think it's probably the truth but Vardy making a meal of it was the deciding bit. I think Reid did just a blatant dive to win their penalty though so that's more of an injustice to me
And that's blatantly cheating so it's equally as bad as a dive, he's tried conning the ref to make him think Ogbonna made a wrongful challenge, evidenced by the fact he threw his hands up implying he'd just been fouled.
How is that not a dive? He instigates contact and goes down, looking for a penalty. That's a dive.
Your centre-halves were warned to stop hugging people in the box for the millionth time.
One of them gets left behind from by his man and tries to pull him back. We all knew what was coming.
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It was relatively soft, but Moss could've given one on virtually any set-piece put into your box.
Huth does it constantly and gets away with it all the time, as do a lot of other defenders (Smalling?).
Stoke got away with one against us the other night, but doing it when you've been warned is asking for it.
How is it cheating? Vardy ran into Ogbonna. Is he not allowed to do that?
How is it not cheating? He's tried conning the ref in to giving a penalty by making him think Ogbonna's clipped or wrongly timed tackled him, thankfully Moss didn't fall for it and rightly booked him.
He tried to con the ref into thinking that he'd been fouled, just as he did in the gif that's already been posted repeatedly:
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Mate it doesn't offend one bit, just makes me laugh, I somewhat visualise an adult sitting there typing the word Spud while thinking they're insulting us and so it just amuses me.
Pretty sure Klinsmann never dived for pens with Spurs, did he? In fact I don't think he actually dived when playing for us at all (other than the celebrations
Wasn't Harry clipped for the West Ham penalty? Didn't Alex Song catch the back of his foot or leg? I sit in the opposite end of the stadium from where that happened and It's been a while since I've seen it on TV though so I'd have to re-watch and then comment on that but I'll be completely honest if I think he's dived or not.
You're claim of righteous indignation is incorrect in my opinion, I think you're ignoring the fact that you're on the Spurs board in the "Rival Watch" section, this is where we're naturally going to speak of things that involves others players and clubs, especially ones around us in the table, whether it's to praise or criticise them. We've criticised Vardy for his antics against West Ham yet massively praised his form this season, just like we've praised Huth for being solid yet I'll still call him lucky not to have been sent off in games - check our team of the season thread, Huth, Vardy, Kante and Mahrez pretty much make 99% of our selected XI's. We're equally critical of our own players though if they've wronged but you'll find those comments in our match day threads.
Fine, measured response - appreciate it ... I'd love you guys to win the title ............................. next season
... would be too much of a stretch to think we might retain it <whiste>
Dear John,
Welcome to the Spurs Board.
Thanks for admitting it was a dive. You may not be alone but amongst your moderators, you represent a minority of one. There are plenty of people on here who will call out our players for diving when it occurs (whether punished in the game or not). Your Moderators appear to have confused a fairy story (where people get what they want to come true because that is what they want) and life where bad things happen and punishment is meted out to those who cheat and abuse others when they are caught.
Can you advise whether you agree :
that having dived it was a booking?
that he deserved to be sent off given that he had already been booked and those are the laws of the game?
he deserves to be banned for more than one game for calling the referee a "fooking coont"?
he deserves more than two games if he also referred to the referee cheating?
If you agree with these, please can you let your Moderators and the England Football Manager know. It maybe worthwhile getting them to admit the truth on other misguided beliefs that despite being nonsense are held by some in that:
Elvis is dead;
The moon landings were real; and
Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone
Thanks Jon.
He's tried conning the ref in to giving a penalty by making him think Ogbonna's clipped or wrongly timed tackled him, thankfully Moss didn't fall for it and rightly booked him.
Where does he try to con the referee?
He gives he has been fouled. As you obviously would in that situation. But when you look at it you can clearly see that Vardy runs into ogbonna rather than vise versa.
No penalty, no dive.