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The referees, obviously.

 

We've yet to spend 200m+ in a summer and assemble the most expensive squad on the most wages in the PL and scrape 4th So there is that still to aim for


Also, irony, after a decade of ranting moaning and crying, claiming Chelsea and City bought the league, you're now fine with the above

 

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Mentions Man Utd's owners and debt but conveniently forgets to do the same for Liverpool, not forgetting us nearly entering administration

 

We're also yet to spend £200m+ in a summer (did you get that "fact" from the same source as Falcao's £400k a week wages?)

I'm fine with United spending their own money. Absolutely. If the club generates enough revenue to spend £150million every summer then happy days. It's the way it should be. The fact that we can spend that kind of money under the Glazer's ownership is astonishing. Imagine if we were debt free!

 

Now now, don't be making weak ass arguments about it being "where the money comes from". Ye consistently moaned that it was the sepnding cos y'know United were not spending. Cos of glazier loaded debt. So United got on the FFP bandwagon instead.

Now you have money, lots of it, and still can't compete with Chelsea and City, unless you count that 1 derby win of recent years

You have no chance of winning the league or CL next season, not with what you lot have shown this season. Ah sure spend another 200m this summer, cos it's not trying to buy the league when united do it is it?

I never had issue with City or Chelsea and money, I just laugh at the sheer self delusion by you types who delude yourself into thinking "where the money comes from" that matters. Even if Chelsea were generating their own income you lot would have claimed they were "buying the league" nevertheless, so double Irony when you go do the same and think it's all good.

You're a joke, but not as big a joke as PL FFP

 

Must be your Scouse firewall.

 

FFP has allowed the Glazers to spend money? Loopy!

 

there are certainly some funny numbers being bandied about here

 

You see this is why no one takes your cack seriously and why you're a **** wum

Obviously, glaziers prevented United spending like City and Chelsea, so United worked on FFP lobbying to stp City Chelsea spending whilst at the same time racking up dubious at best sponsorship deals like DHL for example. Corporate antics. But you are a franchise after all, not a club any more.

The irony of you lot shouting "unfair" when Chelsea spend, or City spend, but that "unfairness" doesn't extend to how the Swansea's ect and how they have to deal with United as you call it "buying the league" or trying to

I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of you mancs and your club who also bemoaned City and Chelsea spending and spent hard cash lobbying to stop them spending

 

Genius that isn't it.

He also ignores that dem current Yanks, were blowing £50m a year until the incremental TV money kicked in and they managed to scrape a break even, albeit with an increased debt level.

Kopites simply have no place bleating about clubs supposed 'buying' anything, as they've consistently been amongst the biggest spenders in the PL era. The fact that they've never managed to turn that spending into an actual title is down to poor investment decisions by successive managers.

 

Please explain (or someone ask him to) how a sponsorship deal with a completely seperate corporate entity like DHL is somehow 'dubious'???

I'm all ears.

 

The clue is in the name - Dubious Hoax Loans. Dodgy as hell that company.

 

In the first 5 years of the Glazer's ownership Fergie won 3 titles and 1 European Cup on a net spend of £900k. Whether he was at an unfair disadvantage or not that's ****ing impressive.

 

It's dubious because it gives a club still saddled with debt huge spending power. Liverpool have consistently outspent United but they can't do that anymore which is unfair!

 

Didn't you win all those trophies within three/four years of their arrival? And rather conveniently for your argument, C.Ronaldo left in the fifth year?

 

People refer to the Ronaldo transfer like it somehow doesn't count! He was sold for £80million and that summer the club had a net profit of £65million in transfers ie the majority of the Ronaldo money wasn't reinvested. After he left we missed out on the title by one point. Compare all of that to the Suarez transfer...

 

I never said it doesn't, I was laughing at the years you picked for convenience. You won the all three PL titles and the CL title between 2006-07 and 2008-09 (within four year of the Glazers arriving) before selling C.Ronaldo just afterwards. To claim in win those titles on a net spend of £900k is just wrong as he didn't get the C.Ronaldo money until just afterwards which is why you conveniently included the fifth year

That trophy haul is still impressive regardless, its just funny that your trying to make it look better


Edit: it also completely ignore the spend prior to the Glazer's arriving and the decade or so Fergie had had prior to their arrival to build the club

 

Do you think any other manager could have achieved the same in similar circumstances ie if Mourinho was suddenly told that over the next 5 years he would have to work with a 1million net spend would he win as many trophies (given he's being lauded for winning this league title on a 5million net spend he'd have to work at a profit for the next 4 years). Of course he wouldn't as a few seconds after having that conversation with the money men he would resign!

 

I've said many many times that Mourinho only does well as he only ever joins the rich clubs, he'd be ****ed without having to spend money.

As I said, that stat you put up is impressive but its also very selective and doesn't give a true reflection. A lot of managers would have done well with C.Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez/Berbatov up front, especially with the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Rio, Vidic, VDS behind them too. Most of which were in place well before the Glazer's arrived. Sure,your spending wasn't what it was once they arrived but Fergie had had many years to build a squad so it was like he was going to suddenly struggle, it took five or six years for that rot to set in ending with a aging squad that he left for Moyes to take the burden for.

Are you willing to admit you only included the fifth year so that the C.Roanldo sale would be included?

PS...you won three League Cups during that five years too btw, including one in that fifth year, maybe that's why you included it

 

Even if you exclude the Ronaldo sale from their total across those 5 years, you lot out sepnt them by £20m in the same timeframe.