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We joke when it's their ONLY ambition and they are happy to just make up the numbers

 

It isn't though it it?

As they won the Cup last season as well, and yet you still took the piss.

 

Haha Moyes is a sh*t manager who has a level - mid table mediocrity. He was found out at Man United and his personality is on par with Hodgson i.e. small club mentality, survival

 

TBF, I think Tobes as got a point here. Moyes did very well to get a team as **** and small as Everton into Europe at all. He even got fourth before tripping up prior to the first hurdle

 

Well then, that's the begining of the end for Chelsea then:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29784107

 

http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/281795-If-you-thought

 

He conned Everton fans into thinking that 7th/8th was all they could get when it so obviously wasn't as RM has shown, accruing more points in his first year than Moyes ever managed - must be all that extra money eh?

 

RM as had cash to spend though, Moyes was never given £28m to spend on one player (to stand still )

 

Moyes' football was **** too

11 years wasted

 

Yeah but Lukaku has done almost nothing for about a year so he can just be ignored

 

Yeah of course he did, despite finishing 6th or better in 5 out of his 10 full seasons

If you want to discuss how budget equates to league position, then crack on, as you lot have been bleating about "dem oil clubz" for years, with you lads of course being paupers at the Master table in that regard..............lol.

As the simple facts are that Moyes consistently out performed his budget (wages and fees) for a decade.

As for RM, he took over a solid side and added goals to it and incase you haven't noticed the £28m striker he bought in on loan last season, has subsequently been signed. Moyes must have wanted to butt the wall when he saw that deal complete, as it was the area of the side he was never able to get right, as its a position that you need to spend £20m+ to buy a proven PL striker, and it was always his biggest frustration at Everton, as we could never even dream of buying one...............until the new TV deal. Extra money? no, of course not..........None of that should take away from waht Martinez achieved last season mind.

 

4 in his last 6 league games.........

 

None of which affected the result

 

Tbf to both Moyes and Martinez, they have built Everton into a club that is capable of beating any team in the prem on their day Tobes.... except I have to say Liverpool. Until you get that monkey off your back and start making those fixtures a 50/50 either way, Martinez hasn't moved Everton forward enough imo.

 

Of course not. Not like goals change games or anything is it?

 

TBF that issue predates both of them We've always made a meal of those fixtures, particularly at the pit.

Everton that.......

 

My memory is letting me down a little here; was Duncan Ferguson pre-Moyes...? I'm guessing he was. We always seemed to struggle against Everton then. Kevin Campbell always played well against us too.

 

But .... the points came before the money

 

Not when it means you lose 3-2 instead of 3-1, etc.

 

Dunc was signed by Mike Walker .

We did OK against you under Big Joe, but even in the glory years you had the hoodoo over us.