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  1. PNkt

    PNkt Well-Known Member

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    Ron, yes European trained.

    Once again, you've caught me out! I was working from a booklet that only goes as far as the 2008 running of BC so did not count Sweet Life and her progeny. There is one other mare (hint you've mentioned a connection already).

    Answers to all questions at 5pm!
     
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  2. PNkt

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    First of all, the dunce's cap for me as I 've just realised that on page 83 of today's Racing Post they have listed all the European trained winners <doh>

    Anyway the correct answer is 44:

    2010
    Dangerous Midge (Turf)
    Goldikova (Mile)

    2009
    Conduit (Turf)
    Goldikova (Mile)
    Midday (F&M Turf)
    Vale of York (Juvenile)
    Pounced (Juvenile Turf)
    Man of Iron (Marathon)

    2008
    Raven&#8217;s Pass (Classic)
    Conduit (Turf)
    Goldikova (Mile)
    Donativum (Juvenile Turf)
    Muhannak (Marathon)

    2007
    No European winners

    2006
    Red Rocks (Turf)
    Ouija Board (F&M Turf)

    2005
    Shirrocco (Turf)

    2004
    Ouija Board (F&M Turf)
    Wilko (Juvenile)

    2003
    High Chaparral (Turf)
    Islington (F&M Turf)
    Six Perfections (Mile)

    2002
    High Chaparral (Turf)
    Domedriver (Mile)

    2001
    Fantastic Light (Turf)
    Banks Hill (F&M Turf)
    Johannesburg (Juvenile)

    2000
    Kalanisi (Turf)

    1999
    Daylami (Turf)

    1998
    No European winners

    1997
    Spinning World (Mile)

    1996
    Pilsudski (Turf)

    1995
    Ridgewood Pearl (Mile)

    1994
    Tikkanen (Turf)
    Barathea (Mile)

    1993
    Arcangues (Classic)

    1992
    No European winners

    1991
    Sheikh Albadou (Sprint)
    Arazi (Juvenile)
    Miss Alleged (Turf)

    1990
    In The Wings (Turf)
    Royal Academy (Mile)

    1989
    No European winners

    1988
    Miesque (Mile)

    1987
    Miesque (Mile)

    1986
    Last Tycoon (Mile)

    1985
    Pebbles (Turf)

    1984
    Lashkari (Turf)


    As for the other questions:

    The 4 years in which there were no European trained winners were 1989, 1992, 1998 and 2007

    The missing mare was HASILI who produced BANKS HILL (2001) and INTERCONTINENTAL (2005) to both win the F&M Turf.

    The three generations to all win a BC race were PERSONAL ENSIGN (1988 DISTAFF), her daughter MY FLAG (1995 Juvenile Fillies) and her daughter STORM FLAG FLYING (2002 Juvenile Fillies).
     
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  3. Ron

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    I was working out the answer to the last question and was about to ask you not to give the answer just yet. Still, when I've got it I can check immediately.
     
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  4. Ron

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    Sorry it took so long Princess. Had to go and help with the horses then dinner came, then I had to play Connect4 with my grandson. It's a hard life in retirement. Still had to do it and sure enough got the answer. Just the one with 3 generations and 4 with 2 (inc the double counting).
     

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  5. Ron

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    (a) what horse was placed in a classic and won the Cambridgeshire?
    (b) what horse won the Cambridgeshire and a Grand National?
     
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  6. Ron

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    Give up?
     
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  7. Reebok

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    I felt that I ought to know (b) but clearly I'm not as savvy as I thought I was :D
     
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  8. Ron

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    The answer to (a) and (b) is None.
    Sorry that wasn't intentional. I should have checked the years and would have realised that, in both cases it was a horse with the same name but couldn't have been the same horse.

    Question void. I hope no-one spent too much time on that. I'll be more careful next time.

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  9. Reebok

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    I spent hours trying to find an answer! Well several minutes anyway :)

    Try this one ..... who was the oldest racehorse ever to win under rules in the UK?

    The answer may be slightly ambiguous because I'm not sure how far back records go, but the horse in question was during my life time so I'm going for that :)
     
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  10. Ron

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    I don't know Reebok. All I can find is Revenge in 1790 and Marksman in 1826 Both at the age of 18. Revenge won in Shrewsbury and Marksman won in Ashford. Best I can do I'm afraid. I do know that good old Crudwell was still winning at the age of 13; I remember him. But then there was Mac Vidi, ?2nd in the Gold Cup at 15. I imagine he was winning races at 15 and I think Man Alive might have won at 16 but not so sure on that one.
     
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    Well - because there isn't a definitive answer that I can find, and old as I am, even I wasn't around in the 18th century - I'll tell you who I had in mind :)

    Sonny Sommers, trained by Fred Winter, won 2 races at 18. Lingfield and Southwell (or was it Chepstow?) A grand old warrior :)
     
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    Yep. Look what I found:

    "February 14, 1980 Sonny Somers, at the age of 18, equalled the record for the oldest horse to win a race in Britain when landing the Star and Garter Handicap Chase at Southwell. Ridden by 20-year-old Ben de Haan (then a 7lb claimer), the sprightly and enthusiastic veteran came home eight lengths clear.

    Sonny Somers scored the last victory of his career at Lingfield a fortnight later. He had been an invaluable tutor to several of Fred Winter's jockeys, including John Francome."
     
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    Sonny Somers was extraordinary. Another around at that time was Mac Vidi, who did not last quite as long but I'm sure was winning races well into his teens.
     
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    Mav Vidi was placed in the gold cup at 15 years.

    However I also found this ----> Paradise Beach came out top, taking part in - and completing - jumps races and points during the whole of the 1970s and a bit either side, before being retired at the age of 21.

    And this one is in the Guinness Book of Records

    http://www.all-round-arabians.co.uk/aljabal-guinness.html

    Probably not the fastest that Greville Starkey has ever sat on!
     
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    which 2 horses won today ,within the space of less than 1 hour apart of each other ,also did 981 days ago ,again within 1 hour of each other?
     
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    Kauto Star and Cappa Bleu
     
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    Gold Cup and Foxhunters in 2009.
     
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    You have a basket containing ten apples. You have ten friends, who each desire an apple. You give each of your friends one apple.

    After a few minutes each of your friends has one apple each, yet there is an apple remaining in the basket.

    How?
     
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    You gave the last apple away in the basket......
     
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    Correct

    Three people enter a room and have a green or blue hat placed on their head. They cannot see their own hat, but can see the other hats.

    The colour of each hat is purely random. They could all be green, or blue, or any combination of green and blue.

    They need to guess their own hat colour by writing it on a piece of paper, or they can write "pass".

    They cannot communicate with each other in any way once the game starts. But they can have a strategy meeting before the game.

    If at least one of them guesses correctly they win £50,000 each, but if anyone guess incorrectly they all get nothing.

    What is the best strategy?
     
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