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As expected, the cheap option. My big worry is Ramsey has no experience of the Championship and our youngsters are nowhere near good enough. Unless there has been a sea-change in our scouting we are going to be hard-pressed to finish even mid-table.

There's no way Austin, Phillips or Fer will stay, the rest are barely Championship quality. It's going to be a tough old season...
 
Big mistake in my opinion, shown nothing thus far. Whether he has been appointed because he is the cheap option we will never know, and why as long as 3 years?
Chris, it's over to you to prove me wrong.
 
I have serious reservations, but at least the club have sorted things out early.
There will be no excuses once Ramsey has his own squad of players.

Clean slate and full support from me and I wish him all the luck in the World.
 
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Always said Ramsey is a good coach but we will struggle to attract decent players with him as manager.
Sad thing is i really like the guy but think we really needed to get someone in with Championship experience.
However i shall support him and really hope i am proved wrong as being proved right is nothing to gloat over as it means we are failing.
 
Whilst I'm a big fan of continuity, it's the wrong decision in my opinion. He lacks experience, he's made some strange selections and used odd formations. His points per game is even less than Harry's meagre achievement. He had the chance to prove what he could do and he has failed. And all those who say he had to make do with what Harry left him should look at what Sherwood, Pulis, Advocaat and Pardew have achieved with other managers' leftovers.

Having said all that, he's a decent, likeable, honest and eloquent man who may be a good youth coach (not that we appear to have quality youths who are ready to kick down the door to the first team). This may sound like faint praise but they are all qualities which his predecessor sorely lacked.

With that off my chest, I am a lifelong QPR fan and I will now give him another chance. I will resist being critical from day one.

Well done, Chris, and good luck. I genuinely wish you well.
 
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Well, I expect an influx of kids from Spurs, some permanent some loan. He does know them. And Levy knows we are always good for a deal which suits him.
 
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Looking in from the outside, this seems to be exactly the same sort of decision we (Norwich) made at the end of last season, promoting the then caretaker manager, Neil Adams to permanent one, ahead of our Championship season - totally split the fans, and was ultimately proven to be the wrong decision when the expectations were a bit too high for him, and he was shown to be out of his depth.

Hope this works out better for you lot, but I´d say the warning signs are there.
 
Rodney said:
Whilst I'm a big fan of continuity, it's the wrong decision in my opinion. He lacks experience, he's made some strange selections and used odd formations. His points per game is even less than Harry's meagre achievement. He had the chance to prove what he could do and he has failed. And all those who say he had to make do with what Harry left him should look at what Sherwood, Pulis, Advocaat and Pardew have achieved with other managers' leftovers.

Having said all that, he's a decent, likeable, honest and eloquent man who may be a good youth coach (not that we appear to have quality youths who are ready to kick down the door to the first team). This may sound like faint praise but they are all qualities which his predecessor sorely lacked.

With that off my chest, I am a lifelong QPR fan and I will now give him another chance. I will resist being critical from day one.

Well done, Chris, and good luck. I genuinely wish you well.
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I think this post has got it right.
As I have said before I think that in recent games he has lost the respect of certain players and it is worrying to hear that Les felt compelled to visit the dressing room at half time on Saturday; also makes me think that Les will be buying the players...let's hope he has more luck than he did in January.
At the end of the day it is fans who get managers sacked. CR needs to get our home form right pretty quickly next season; all that long term plan stuff, injury problems, blah blah means nothing to the paying spectators when your team is 2-0 down at home; all you see and feel is what is in front of you there and then and you express yourself accordingly. Seen this happen many times at Loftus Road down the years. CR will do well to make it to Christmas.
 
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Looking in from the outside, this seems to be exactly the same sort of decision we (Norwich) made at the end of last season, promoting the then caretaker manager, Neil Adams to permanent one, ahead of our Championship season - totally split the fans, and was ultimately proven to be the wrong decision when the expectations were a bit too high for him, and he was shown to be out of his depth.

Hope this works out better for you lot, but I´d say the warning signs are there.
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Cant argue with that.
 
Clive's view of things:-

QPR back Ferdinand’s plan with Ramsey risk – column
Tuesday, 19th May 2015 22:28 by Clive Whittingham

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/footba...ck-ferdinand’s-plan-with-ramsey-risk-–-column

Chris Ramsey has today been appointed the permanent head coach of QPR on a three year contract. LFW weighs up the pros and cons of Les Ferdinand’s faith in the 53-year-old.

It seems a little rich of Liverpool to be complaining about the greed, lack of loyalty and poor motivations of Raheem Sterling as he courts a move to one of Europe's Champions League regulars, with all the riches and vagina that would provide him with.

After all it was Liverpool who shouldered Fulham and Man City out of the way and took Sterling from QPR's academy five years ago. Sterling, a Jamaican immigrant, had behavioural problems and had spent time in a special school when QPR got hold of him, provided structure in his life, professionally coached his supreme natural ability and offered to make him the youngest first team player in the club's history. But Liverpool could offer big promises, bigger money and even bigger watches and so off he went. That's how football in this country works.

That Liverpool are complaining that somebody else is offering even bigger promises, money and watches and they're potentially going to lose him shows a staggering lack of self awareness. But then football people can be a bit one-eyed and partisan at times, it kind of comes with the territory.

Take the QPR fans who, rightly, criticised Harry Redknapp for steadfastly refusing to countenance even a substitute appearance for any of the club's younger players during two years of reckless spending at Loftus Road. Redknapp would rather pick right back Luke Young at centre half for his first senior appearance in two years than give the place to the youth team centre back. Rather sign Oguchi Onyewu, a US international of 70 caps standing, to sit on the bench instead of Max Ehmer. It's the reason QPR managed to spend £108m during their last 12 months in the Championship and he was rightly pilloried for it.

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When Chris Ramsey came in he immediately made it clear that youth players would be considered if they were good enough, if they trained well enough and if their attitude was right. Sure enough, when injuries struck at right back, Darnell Furlong was selected at Hull and performed admirably. But when Furlong was subsequently given a tough time by first Alexis Sanchez and then Yannick Bolasie – two finer wingers you'd struggle to find in the Premier League – Ramsey was criticised for it. "Well I wouldn't have picked him in that game" the argument went, as people suggested Karl Henry could have played there instead. Imagine the grief Redknapp would have been given for selecting Karl Henry at right back ahead of younger players who actually naturals in that position.

You can't have your cake and eat it. It makes you look like Richard Littlejohn, who freely admits his job is to "sit at the back and throw bottles."

So it's difficult to be too critical of today's news that Chris Ramsey, as expected, has been made the permanent head coach at QPR on a three year contract. After all, it's clearly part of a plan, and isn't that what we've been begging the club to have for sometime? A plan? Haven't we banged on about the lack of a football person on the board? The lack of any QPR people, who know and understand the club, working at a high level at Loftus Road? Ramsey is Les Ferdinand's man, and this is Les Ferdinand's plan..................................


Conclusions
Impossible to draw. I don't think I'm known for sitting on the fence but what more can you do here? I can make as many arguments for this being the best news ever as I can the worst. We wanted a football man on the board, we wanted a long term plan, we wanted young players being given a chance, we wanted discipline to be imposed, we wanted people who treat our club with respect. We've got it.

Start praying it works.

 
Kilburn said:
Clive's view of things:-

QPR back Ferdinand’s plan with Ramsey risk – column
Tuesday, 19th May 2015 22:28 by Clive Whittingham

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/38685/qpr-back-ferdinand’s-plan-with-ramsey-risk-–-column

Chris Ramsey has today been appointed the permanent head coach of QPR on a three year contract. LFW weighs up the pros and cons of Les Ferdinand’s faith in the 53-year-old.

It seems a little rich of Liverpool to be complaining about the greed, lack of loyalty and poor motivations of Raheem Sterling as he courts a move to one of Europe's Champions League regulars, with all the riches and vagina that would provide him with.

After all it was Liverpool who shouldered Fulham and Man City out of the way and took Sterling from QPR's academy five years ago. Sterling, a Jamaican immigrant, had behavioural problems and had spent time in a special school when QPR got hold of him, provided structure in his life, professionally coached his supreme natural ability and offered to make him the youngest first team player in the club's history. But Liverpool could offer big promises, bigger money and even bigger watches and so off he went. That's how football in this country works.

That Liverpool are complaining that somebody else is offering even bigger promises, money and watches and they're potentially going to lose him shows a staggering lack of self awareness. But then football people can be a bit one-eyed and partisan at times, it kind of comes with the territory.

Take the QPR fans who, rightly, criticised Harry Redknapp for steadfastly refusing to countenance even a substitute appearance for any of the club's younger players during two years of reckless spending at Loftus Road. Redknapp would rather pick right back Luke Young at centre half for his first senior appearance in two years than give the place to the youth team centre back. Rather sign Oguchi Onyewu, a US international of 70 caps standing, to sit on the bench instead of Max Ehmer. It's the reason QPR managed to spend £108m during their last 12 months in the Championship and he was rightly pilloried for it.

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When Chris Ramsey came in he immediately made it clear that youth players would be considered if they were good enough, if they trained well enough and if their attitude was right. Sure enough, when injuries struck at right back, Darnell Furlong was selected at Hull and performed admirably. But when Furlong was subsequently given a tough time by first Alexis Sanchez and then Yannick Bolasie – two finer wingers you'd struggle to find in the Premier League – Ramsey was criticised for it. "Well I wouldn't have picked him in that game" the argument went, as people suggested Karl Henry could have played there instead. Imagine the grief Redknapp would have been given for selecting Karl Henry at right back ahead of younger players who actually naturals in that position.

You can't have your cake and eat it. It makes you look like Richard Littlejohn, who freely admits his job is to "sit at the back and throw bottles."

So it's difficult to be too critical of today's news that Chris Ramsey, as expected, has been made the permanent head coach at QPR on a three year contract. After all, it's clearly part of a plan, and isn't that what we've been begging the club to have for sometime? A plan? Haven't we banged on about the lack of a football person on the board? The lack of any QPR people, who know and understand the club, working at a high level at Loftus Road? Ramsey is Les Ferdinand's man, and this is Les Ferdinand's plan..................................


Conclusions
Impossible to draw. I don't think I'm known for sitting on the fence but what more can you do here? I can make as many arguments for this being the best news ever as I can the worst. We wanted a football man on the board, we wanted a long term plan, we wanted young players being given a chance, we wanted discipline to be imposed, we wanted people who treat our club with respect. We've got it.

Start praying it works.
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Yep, that's about the top and bottom of it. TF has taken the easy option and called it a plan (The Three Year Plan?) Only time will tell if he has the nerve to stick to it.

Putting your faith in youngsters, particularly our not too brilliant youngsters, is a big gamble in the Championship, remember Fulham tried it with their FA Youth Cup winners last season and bombed, so there's every possibility we'll be near the bottom and the fans, who are fickle, will be calling for the manager's head and, more likely this time, TF's head...
 
TIm said:
Agree on everything, but not sure i could take another drop. There is no way we could not panic if we were to drop again.
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We R'rsss fans are punched drunk .................. if we drop again, I don't think I could get back up again, nor the club.
I'm not bothered if we don't go straight back up but I expect to see some real signs of the management and the team, getting it right.
If were scrapping all season in the bowels of the Championship, I for one will have the shiits.
 
Sooperhoop said:
Yep, that's about the top and bottom of it. TF has taken the easy option and called it a plan (The Three Year Plan?) Only time will tell if he has the nerve to stick to it.

Putting your faith in youngsters, particularly our not too brilliant youngsters, is a big gamble in the Championship, remember Fulham tried it with their FA Youth Cup winners last season and bombed, so there's every possibility we'll be near the bottom and the fans, who are fickle, will be calling for the manager's head and, more likely this time, TF's head...
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But we haven't got that many youngsters....in fact we won't have that many players, so that cannot be the plan surely...or I really hope not.
There has to be a plan to supplement with a few lower league buys, with the money we get for Austin....and few loans...probably from Spurs....and to add the few better players we might keep....McCarthy, Henry, Ned.........and maybe one of Phillips or Fer..

That must be a more viable plan....please God.
 
Kilburn said .......... "It seems a little rich of Liverpool to be complaining about the greed, lack of loyalty and poor motivations of Raheem Sterling as he courts a move to one of Europe's Champions League regulars, with all the riches and vagina that would provide him with"

Sorry, I wasn't aware that Champions League offered complimentary ''vaginas' or is it rich vaginas .......... I'm at a loss.
Is that why so many Aussie juniors players head to Europe?.
Dam it, I had talent ( years ago ) ...............why wasn't I told?
 
royalbarclayfan said:
Looking in from the outside, this seems to be exactly the same sort of decision we (Norwich) made at the end of last season, promoting the then caretaker manager, Neil Adams to permanent one, ahead of our Championship season - totally split the fans, and was ultimately proven to be the wrong decision when the expectations were a bit too high for him, and he was shown to be out of his depth.

Hope this works out better for you lot, but I´d say the warning signs are there.
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Have I mentioned that I ****ing hate Norwich?
 
Ranger4ever said:
Are we going to settle for 4-4-1-1?

It will depend on what, if any striking options we have
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Ramsey now has the summer to plan and recruit according to how he wants to play.
We have been ridiculously open this season. It must change imo.
 
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