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I'm not sure if I'd favour trying to compete with Swansea's possession, as I think they're better at it than us, and it plays into their hands.

Not pretty I accept, but I'd be much more inclined to go direct and even launch the ball towards the front two, rather than get bogged down in a midfield possession war that I don't think we would win.

I think we've seen an erring towards more direct play since Jelavic and Long signed, so that's what I expect to see.
 
I love the way that you dont have an answer to the point and so you turn it into a personal attack on me.

You're very vocal for someone who doesn't even make the very basic effort to turn up to home games.

And I don't actually know what the main point is, I read the first two lines of Happy's post and stopped. It's too long.

Short, snappy posts are the future of football forums. Let's all try to be concise.
 
You're very vocal for someone who doesn't even make the very basic effort to turn up to home games.

And I don't actually know what the main point is, I read the first two lines of Happy's post and stopped. It's too long.

Short, snappy posts are the future of football forums. Let's all try to be concise.

ah then you thought you would go on to attack me, thanks for that.
 
I'm not sure if I'd favour trying to compete with Swansea's possession, as I think they're better at it than us, and it plays into their hands.

Not pretty I accept, but I'd be much more inclined to go direct and even launch the ball towards the front two, rather than get bogged down in a midfield possession war that I don't think we would win.

I think we've seen an erring towards more direct play since Jelavic and Long signed, so that's what I expect to see.

Boydy as hard-running impact sub.

I bet he's salivating at the prospect.
 
hmm so basically Party is admitting that he has the attention span of a gnat?

I do struggle with long, meandering and self-indulgent posts on this forum. My eyes cloud over, start to sting and before you know it, I'm yawning.

A few posters really excel in them, and I'm sure they feel mightily intelligent once they've finished them, but it's not a narcissism I like to support.
 
Right, not wishing to carry on disrupting the other thread, I've a few questions for CTWD, and an explanation of why I support the Allams and not CTWD. Try to take a deep breath, and think before hitting that "submit" button.

I'm still puzzled by the support for a room full of people deciding the entire future direction of a group by showing their hands. Also, don't you usually need a quorum before a xGM can pass anything? If you're sticking to the rules, what quorum have you set?

Seeing as it's so easy to organise a poll, I'm also curious as to why you didn't organise one before hand, so that you could get the views of the majority of your members, then present that at the FGM. Seriously, it would have been REALLY easy for you to do this, why haven't you? Not interested in what the 1600ish that can't make it think? Are they irrelevant?

It's nice to see you doing things you're "legally obliged to do", so, who is the Independant Hand Counter?

What provisions are in place to ensure no one votes twice, i.e. puts both hands up?

What provisions are in place for people who can't raise their arms high enough?

Can parents hold their eligible kids up and does the kid need to hold up both hands to signify themselves and their parent?

Can the people who can't make it in vote via instagram with a photo of their hand up (membership bracelet displayed clearly)?

Any chance of a photo of the room full of CTWD voters with their arms raised please??

In all honesty, I now see why the club turned down your generous offer to help them run their poll. Even with all of CTWD in attendance, I think it would have been difficult to count all the hands being raised around the stadium.

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You accuse the Allams of being scared for not running a poll, then you lambast them for the poll they do run, then you run this shambles because you either a) can't manage a simple poll of your membership or b) think their views are irrelevant.

You accuse them of deceit and lies, all the while keeping from your membership and the public whom you seem to enjoy "engaging" with about the super secret file you handed over to the FA, not to mention the long running bullshit about being single issue.

You claim to back the Allams whilst doing every single thing you can to undermine them and the club.

You accuse them of polarising supporters, whilst you describe anyone not in CTWD as irrelevant, and anyone who dares to stand up to you is set upon by your angry little internet stormtroopers.

You twist and turn every comment from the owners, yet scream and howl when anyone does it to you.

You accuse them of releasing contentious statements before a game, which upsets people, then you release a statement the day before a game which is designed to upset people.

You're still playing at Football Manager. You have no clue of how to run a club, no proper plan or approach on how to raise sufficient funds to make our club long term financially stable. In short, you're protesting for the sake of protesting. You like protesting. You actually have nothing to offer the club other than your so called support.

Almost everything you accuse the club of, you are guilty of, it's almost like you think its one rule for them, and a totally different set of rules for you.

The Allams have restructured the club internally, removing waste and inefficiency. The business side of things at the club are now being run much more professionally than they were before they turned up. They managed to get rid of Bullard without it costing us a fortune. They have gambled their own money on the club and want to attempt something risky, but in a managed and moderated manner in a brave attempt to break the mold and to give us an edge.

Sure, they've made some mistakes, who doesn't? The name change could have been handled better, everyone acknowledges that. It's not however quite the portent of doom CTWD paints it to be.

They're still more trustworthy and have more integrity than CTWD. That is why I support them and the club, not CTWD.

You really need a hobby.
 
Strange post. I'm surprised, or am I, that you haven't mentioned our disabled members who may be unable to raise their hand.

Anyway to answer your questions. The chairperson counts the votes. If the vote is close the floor usually appoints tellers. If the vote is still too close to call then provision may be made for a paper ballot counted by the tellers. However that only happens if the votes are close. Its not complicated and has served various organisations well for decades.

The difference between a poll and a meeting is that a meeting allows debate, out of which the decision may change significantly. A poll is a simple yes or no or don't care. For example some people like the idea of Hull City Tigers as a compromise. A meeting would allow that to be put forward and a vote taken. Assem Allam's poll ignored it. It is usually referred to participatory democracy rather than a plebiscite. When I was growing up participatory democracy was seen as better.

I'll suggest that we have photos of the AGM, but someone will have thought of that already.

The future of CTWD is up to the members that attend the meeting. If they just joined up to fight the name change then they may say, "I've done my bit, that's it I'm off to the pub before the match for a drink". Some may have done their bit but would like to see who the committee members are to say thank you for standing up for them. Some may be interested in the idea of a new Supporters' Trust and want to get involved. It will be their decision. Same as backing a man that increased our turnover (excluding transfers and parachute monies) by £35,000 in a season when we won automatic promotion to the Premier League is yours. Some may even think we've done a bad job and want to tell us.

The biggest mistake they made was not doing a deal with the council. We'd have had another layer of corporate boxes bringing much needed money into the club if they had. They would have had boxes to offer sponsors which would have brought in additional revenue. If the deal had included an hotel they would have had the rent from that as well. Reading make over £5 million a year on average from theirs.

That's a lot of money wasted simply because of his spat with the council. When he finds the money to move to Melton all that extra income will go on paying the mortgage rather than on the team.

With a little imagination and some start up money Hull City could have the wealthiest supporters trust in Britain. Assem Allam may never talk to us but if we are wealthy enough the next owner will. After all the purpose of the supporters trust is to build the club.

Remember Happy, life is sweet if you don't buckle.
 
I do struggle with long, meandering and self-indulgent posts on this forum. My eyes cloud over, start to sting and before you know it, I'm yawning.

A few posters really excel in them, and I'm sure they feel mightily intelligent once they've finished them, but it's not a narcissism I like to support.

This is true. Some posters really haven't adapted their manner of delivery to the demands of the net.
 
You're very vocal for someone who doesn't even make the very basic effort to turn up to home games.

And I don't actually know what the main point is, I read the first two lines of Happy's post and stopped. It's too long.

Short, snappy posts are the future of football forums. Let's all try to be concise.

Y?
 
hmm writing an essay doesn't really work on a forum... really it should be made into bullet points.
short and snappy.
 
Has anyone actually read that monstrous amount of bullshit in the OP?

Does anyone actually bother reading any of Happy Clappers boring old drones anymore?

Maybe CTWD could become a violent guerrilla group, and aim at eradicating boring pro name change cabbages and the FA? I'd certainly join then!
 
I do struggle with long, meandering and self-indulgent posts on this forum. My eyes cloud over, start to sting and before you know it, I'm yawning.

A few posters really excel in them, and I'm sure they feel mightily intelligent once they've finished them, but it's not a narcissism I like to support.

to be totally honest, I'm not sure anyone can be arsed to read it fully through