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TheJudeanPeoplesFront said:
Ultimately I can't believe how quickly everyone betrayed their opinion of McClaren as saviour. I only bumped that thread a few days ago... Seems more salient than ever.

Now same with Rafa. Does he play CB like?

Why do people put so much stock in the merrygoround of managers? Is it because you can't change the players due to the transfer Windows?
I'm starting to think the reason we are a soap opera club, is because we are all ****ing drama queens who need a constant state of flux to have any faith or interest.
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Sorry but youre being ridiculous
 
TheJudeanPeoplesFront said:
Ultimately I can't believe how quickly everyone betrayed their opinion of McClaren as saviour. I only bumped that thread a few days ago... Seems more salient than ever.

Now same with Rafa. Does he play CB like?

Why do people put so much stock in the merrygoround of managers? Is it because you can't change the players due to the transfer Windows?
I'm starting to think the reason we are a soap opera club, is because we are all ****ing drama queens who need a constant state of flux to have any faith or interest.
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People will look back at this period as the Rafa Phenomenon, a time when NUFC fans collectively ran around like headless chickens convincing themselves that he is the New Messiah.

After reading this thread and a few others, Fans really need to get a grip on themselves - expectation and hope is one thing, but some of the things written are not those of rational minds.
 
TheJudeanPeoplesFront said:
You're going to give Rafa credit for Sterling? Really? That was an academy swap. You've nicely dissected a massive problem of his as well, his reliance on Spanish footballers. That ain't happening at le toon.

Xabi Alonso and Torres were his best buys in his career, but ultimately all his success was built on one of the best club players of all time dragging some of his absolute dross to higher levels, and he was a scouser who was already on the books. Giving Benitez the credit seems unjust.
I'm fairly certain the transfer prices have become astronomical since his days on merseyside, but Liverpool spent a big whack during his time and should have won the title.

Why has he been sacked everywhere else? Genius he is not. Agreeable to Spanish methods and with well placed contacts in la liga, maybe.

If he becomes manager, which I can't see anyway, the tide will turn on him pretty quickly.
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Why wouldn't you rely on Spanish footballers when at the time they were the best in the World and he had excellent contacts. Your saying it's a negative that he managed to use his contacts in home land to buy cracking players at cheap prices (Reina £6m, Aurelio £2m, Alonso £10m, Torres £20m)?

His success was getting the bet out of Gerrard and first turning him into a goal scoring RM to get the best out the team, then moving him inside to strike up the deadliest partnership in England at the time with Torres.

Not going into the money thing as it's been done to death on our board with rival fans a million times.

No disrespect to Newcastle, but the guy has won more trophies as manager in 15 odd years as Newcastle have as a club, and the ones he won with us and Valencia were at teams that were 3rd best in the league at best, not at teams dominating their league already with all the money to spend like Mourinho/Guardiola.

It's funny you say we should have won more under him... why should we? Were we winning titles before and he took over? Were we winning the CL and getting to the later stages on a regular basis just before he came? No...
 
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Wednesday's Heed said:
People will look back at this period as the Rafa Phenomenon, a time when NUFC fans collectively ran around like headless chickens convincing themselves that he is the New Messiah.

After reading this thread and a few others, Fans really need to get a grip on themselves - expectation and hope is one thing, but some of the things written are not those of rational minds.
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Being a headless chicken is underrated!!

I'm going to jump on the bandwagon of hoping he can turn things around if he ever arrives. Up until then I'm expecting it to be another let down in a continuing saga of let downs.
 
Wednesday's Heed said:
People will look back at this period as the Rafa Phenomenon, a time when NUFC fans collectively ran around like headless chickens convincing themselves that he is the New Messiah.

After reading this thread and a few others, Fans really need to get a grip on themselves - expectation and hope is one thing, but some of the things written are not those of rational minds.
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Regardless of whether Rafa is a better manager than Pardew, Carver or McClaren, one of the benfits his reputation might carry is that he might finally see the club give in to his demands to have the model changed. That won't show whether any of the previous three would have done better if they had been allowed the same control and funding, but if it benefits the club going forward then it can only be a positive.

I also think we're all hoping that a change might be just enough to give us the short term boost that sometimes come with a new manager. We're at the stage where we are so desperate to receive some sort of boost that we will latch onto the possibility of one and put our hope in it, simply because we are running out of reasons to hope.
 
Less Hope Than Neville said:
Regardless of whether Rafa is a better manager than Pardew, Carver or McClaren, one of the benfits his reputation might carry is that he might finally see the club give in to his demands to have the model changed. That won't show whether any of the previous three would have done better if they had been allowed the same control and funding, but if it benefits the club going forward then it can only be a positive.

I also think we're all hoping that a change might be just enough to give us the short term boost that sometimes come with a new manager. We're at the stage where we are so desperate to receive some sort of boost that we will latch onto the possibility of one and put our hope in it, simply because we are running out of reasons to hope.
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I'm not disagreeing as it happens.
Just stating my observations of what I've read tonight.
 
Less Hope Than Neville said:
No that's fair enough - especially when you consider we don't actually know if he is even coming. Could be a lot of egg on the club's face if he says no.
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That's the problem, with all the hype and expectation over the last couple of days, it will be one massive let down if he cant be persuaded to take the job.
 
Bringing Rafa in is beyond the expectations of the majority of fans so it's understandable they are excited about it. Also, considering the relentless torrent of misery that this season (and the last several seasons before it to be honest) has inflicted on us, and considering our current league position, it's nice to have some positive news for once and enjoy a feel good factor. That said, he's not signed yet and I am personally reserving my excitement until he says it's a fact that he's the new Newcastle manager!
 
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Ashley could well scupper all of Charnley's skilful negotiations tomorrow when he apparently is flying into the country to discuss the situation. Face it guys, its Mac and Carr for the long haul :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
daztoc said:
Ashley could well scupper all of Charnley's skilful negotiations tomorrow when he apparently is flying into the country to discuss the situation. Face it guys, its Mac and Carr for the long haul :emoticon-0148-yes:
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I can imagine Benitez wants to meet the guy and see if he thinks he can work with/for him. He'll also probably want to know about the ambitions for the club and how much funding he'll get for the squad. I think Ashley will convince him about money and ambition. Whether it's true or total bullshit though we won't know until much further down the line.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Why wouldn't you rely on Spanish footballers when at the time they were the best in the World and he had excellent contacts. Your saying it's a negative that he managed to use his contacts in home land to buy cracking players at cheap prices (Reina £6m, Aurelio £2m, Alonso £10m, Torres £20m)?

His success was getting the bet out of Gerrard and first turning him into a goal scoring RM to get the best out the team, then moving him inside to strike up the deadliest partnership in England at the time with Torres.

Not going into the money thing as it's been done to death on our board with rival fans a million times.

No disrespect to Newcastle, but the guy has won more trophies as manager in 15 odd years as Newcastle have as a club, and the ones he won with us and Valencia were at teams that were 3rd best in the league at best, not at teams dominating their league already with all the money to spend like Mourinho/Guardiola.

It's funny you say we should have won more under him... why should we? Were we winning titles before and he took over? Were we winning the CL and getting to the later stages on a regular basis just before he came? No...
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Bang on. Our biggest problem since Robson left has been the management on and off the pitch. If we get rafa in with almost total control of first team affairs then that is a massive step in a positive direction. It is yet to be proved how it would work out but its certainly on the face of it a much better decisions by those in charge than they have managed to make in recent years.
 
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BREAKING: Rafa Benitez is on his way to Newcastle as we speak with talks to be finalised today, says club source. More to follow @MailSport
 
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