Match Day Thread QPR vs Luton

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I think my match day experience may have some small relevance to the awful attack on the Luton Town supporter.

The match for my wife and I was spoilt by the heavy and heavy-handed police presence. With about 15 minutes to go before kick off, the road to our South Africa Road entrance was blocked off by the police and we were redirected elsewhere. We went the way we were told and the police there wouldn't let us through either and wanted us to go back to where we had just come from! The police told us they didn't know why we were being stopped and they didn't know which alternative way we should try. Instead we went back towards the Uxbridge Road to try another road up towards the ground where we joined a group of several hundred QPR fans being held up. Tempers were getting frayed and I think the police were actually making matters worse. At one point, the crowd were angrily chanting "you don't know what you're doing" and never has such a comment been more valid. We tried two more routes before finding a way in and arrived 6 minutes after kick off.

At the end of the match, we felt we ought to leave early (on 85 minutes) to avoid any trouble. Despite things being quiet, the police insisted on redirecting us into the White City Estate, completely the wrong direction to get back to our car. Obviously, as a 68-year old couple we looked more threatening than the Keystone Cops were prepared to engage with.

It may be my failing memory but I can't recall such a large and active police presence at a QPR match and I've been going since the 1960's. I thought we had left behind this sort of experience back in those days. If the police anticipate trouble and want to plan their response, I would expect them, at a minimum, to decide which roads to block and which alternative way to direct home fans. Well, they got that 50% right and it's a sad reflection on their competence.
I thought about leaving early but my route is straight into the Estate to the 95 bus on the A40 so I thought I'd be fine which I was.

As to the police presence, surely it's like that every time Millwall visit, isn't it?
 
Lads as there's now been a charge for the alleged assault on Friday can we now desist from making any further comment about the situation in case anything is posted that could potentially prejudice the eventual trial and hinder due process.........

This is not censorship in any shape or form, it's just a request that we are sensible and appreciate that somethings have to be adhered too........

If anything is posted or a new thread started on the subject then it will be deleted......

Cheers
Totally agree, just its very interesting to read posts about fans experience of before and after the match regarding the Police and their treatment of home fans, not the specific of a horrendous injury to a fellow human being. I am now thinking twice about travelling to Derby and Sheffield on my own
 
Who are the worst group of fans? Birmingham, Millwall, Cardiff ... and now Luton? I don't like to see any opposing fan end up in ITC, but my daughter and I escaped a rather unpleasant episode with Brentford fans in Ellerslie Road ( Near Abdale Road ) a couple of years ago. Deeply distressing. Thankfully they're grown up and no longer go to games.

It doesn't matter what team you play, if your unfortunate to bump into their idiots, you're at their mercy. These idiots are at every club. Every new generation generates more. How do yo stop it ?
 
Who are the worst group of fans? Birmingham, Millwall, Cardiff ... and now Luton? I don't like to see any opposing fan end up in ITC, but my daughter and I escaped a rather unpleasant episode with Brentford fans in Ellerslie Road ( Near Abdale Road ) a couple of years ago. Deeply distressing. Thankfully they're grown up and no longer go to games.

It doesn't matter what team you play, if your unfortunate to bump into their idiots, you're at their mercy. These idiots are at every club. Every new generation generates more. How do yo stop it ?
There's at least one family who thinks ours are the worst
 
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Who are the worst group of fans? Birmingham, Millwall, Cardiff ... and now Luton? I don't like to see any opposing fan end up in ITC, but my daughter and I escaped a rather unpleasant episode with Brentford fans in Ellerslie Road ( Near Abdale Road ) a couple of years ago. Deeply distressing. Thankfully they're grown up and no longer go to games.

It doesn't matter what team you play, if your unfortunate to bump into their idiots, you're at their mercy. These idiots are at every club. Every new generation generates more. How do yo stop it ?
Unfortunately to answer this it will be have to be on the politics thread, as the answer lies with politicians and 4 generations of benefit families
 
Wise!
Generally an unpleasant and odious group of fans but police in huge numbers!
What would happen if there was never any police/steward presence? At some point would those who use football as an excuse to hurl racist, sexist, homophobic chants whilst wanting to kick the **** out of anyone for any reason actually not bother, due to zero reaction?
 
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What would happen if there was never any police/steward presence? At some point would those who use football as an excuse to hurl racist, sexist, homophobic chants whilst wanting to kick the **** out of anyone for any reason actually not bother, due to zero reaction?
Unfortunately with two opposing groups of fans there would always be a reaction
I went to one game at Fulham and there was a group of pissed up qpr fans trying to start fights with other qpr fans
 
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