Disappointing, controlled it until red card & wolves re-adjusted in 2nd half & found space & sloppy 2nd goal, thank gawd for smithies, we just can't play when camera's are there.
I honestly think that very few of those players care. It should hurt when you lose and I didn't see any signs of that. No one stepped up to the plate when we went behind. I think time to shake things up.
Think you're being a tad harsh there kerry.....no lack of effort from what I saw, far better side when 11 v 11 and apart from 10 minutes or so better side when 10 v 11.... Just lacking that cutting edge inot front of goal....
I think we are underselling ourselves hugely if we are happy with that level of effort. Those guys hardly broke a sweat. I see 5 a side teams play with more passion than what I saw tonight. I just don't think what we saw tonight was acceptable. Why was Holloway going beserk on the sideline pumping his chest?
Passion and effort are 2 different things........ What we lack is a spine of leaders on the pitch......a hill, derry backbone, we're maybe too nice a side, need an edge to show we won't be bullied....we don't have those characters just now....... Plus you can't legislate for perch getting himself sent off......as soon as that happened we were always likely to come unstuck even against a crap side like wolves...
I don't think we're suggesting it's perfect. The difference is under JFH he'd have let their heads go down and we'd have lost by more without a fight like Newcastle. Holloway kept them going and should / will start to build some never say die attitude that with 11 players can see us push on and achieve results. That's where I see the real difference. It takes a bit of time to change a mentality.
Not trying to be difficult but I see passion and effort as 2 sides of the 1 coin. Agree with you 100% about lack of leaders and that we have a soft underbelly.
cant pass, cant tackle, cant defend. Smithies saved us from a hammering. Chery and Luongo so disappointing. Ned when moved to right back was shocking. A total liability who cant kick the ball straight. That was one of the worst performances i have ever seen from us. Wolves were ****e and we rolled over again.
I wasn't being critical of Holloway. It showed his passion but also unfortunately a recognition of the lack of passion being shown on the pitch. He is going to need time to weed out those players that are just not up for the fight.
Very frustrating evening. In fact it started as soon as I saw the team sheet - I don't understand why Holloway didn't start any wingers. Particularly Shodipo who has looked lively and a real prospect whenever he has played Very big game at Rotherham next Saturday
Shouldn't need wingers in a 352 as your wing backs should provide the width......unfortunately tonight it didn't work......against Norwich we were playing diagonal balls to the wing backs in space on both flanks, tonight we looked as if we tried to pass around them or through them....it didn't work......plus according to Holloway none of our wingers are particularly good at defending!!!!!!!! I like the idea of hall being the holding midfielder, not sure that Sandro was a step up from cousins especially as you only get 60 minutes from him before having to replace him...... It's all work in progress but Rotherham suddenly looks like another banana skin waiting to happen....