Match Day Thread QPR v Reading

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rangercol said:
Full backs are supposed to stop the crosses from their own side and tuck in around the centre backs when the threat is coming from the opposite side. Also, they need to be able to defend the far post and be aware of this threat.
What we are seeing is a direct result of not having natural fullbacks in those positions.
Total incompetence.
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In the age of the wingback I fear far too many fullbacks fancy themselves more as attackers than defenders. Coaches encourage them to get forward and I reckon there is less emphasis on the quality of defending. Your typical footballer's brain capacity is small and finite and, once you've set aside space in there for fashion, crap music and tattoos, there's only so much he's going to be able to store about tactical nous and defensive prowess.
 
Ned and Perch have both been playing back for years and ought to be good enough there at least in this Division. I don't understand why a CB Lynch played LB Saturday when Ned and Perch were both starting, and also Haininien was on the Bench.
 
QPR Oslo said:
Ned and Perch have both been playing back for years and ought to be good enough there at least in this Division. I don't understand why a CB Lynch played LB Saturday when Ned and Perch were both starting, and also Haininien was on the Bench.
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Could it be that the coach isn't up to it?
 
rangercol said:
Could it be that the coach isn't up to it?
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Yes of course. But he could have some reason for playing that back 4 we don't know about.

I would have been happy enough to see Jimmy replaced by Colin, but it's too late for him now, or Bruce, and I don't know who else could come in and have a good chance of giving us the improvement needed to get us up this season.
 
QPR999 said:
The goal we conceded was almost a carbon copy of the one against Birmingham. Their player was free in acres of space and able to cross unchallenged from our right to the back post. I'm sure this has happened before this season but can't think of it off the top of my head. We've been poor when defending crosses this season and believe that both goals conceded v Huddersfield were similar but from our left? I'll have a look later as I'm cooking a Sunday roast at the moment.
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That defending was shocking......ambled up and was nowhere near him when most RBs would have been close. Had he already been skinned ?......and then stuck out a leg in a feeble display. The winger would have had more trouble with a mannequin. Disgraceful...and thats from a seasoned Pro who is supposed to be quick.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
In the age of the wingback I fear far too many fullbacks fancy themselves more as attackers than defenders. Coaches encourage them to get forward and I reckon there is less emphasis on the quality of defending. Your typical footballer's brain capacity is small and finite and, once you've set aside space in there for fashion, crap music and tattoos, there's only so much he's going to be able to store about tactical nous and defensive prowess.
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But we have 'special' fullbacks who neither attack nor defend. They just occupy a space on the pitch, preferably some distance from where the action is.

What I would give to see Dave Clement, or even Don Shanks, in this team.
 
Fourtyyearsofhurt(mostly) said:
That defending was shocking......ambled up and was nowhere near him when most RBs would have been close. Had he already been skinned ?......and then stuck out a leg in a feeble display. The winger would have had more trouble with a mannequin. Disgraceful...and thats from a seasoned Pro who is supposed to be quick.
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Speaking from bitter experience, you can only get so far with a mannequin, almost impregnable and it's not for the want of trying
 
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rangercol said:
Full backs are supposed to stop the crosses from their own side and tuck in around the centre backs when the threat is coming from the opposite side. Also, they need to be able to defend the far post and be aware of this threat.
What we are seeing is a direct result of not having natural fullbacks in those positions.
Total incompetence.
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Bang on Col.

This is the same issue with England - the players aren't good enough to be Total Footballers like Ajax in the 70s or 90s - put a right back in the RB position not a centre back.

They aren't doing the basics and stopping the crosses; if they are meant to be offensive minded wing backs, then they aren't providing the midfield dominance and goal scoring threat that wing backs are meant to supply.
 
sb_73 said:
But we have 'special' fullbacks who neither attack nor defend. They just occupy a space on the pitch, preferably some distance from where the action is.

What I would give to see Dave Clement, or even Don Shanks, in this team.
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Quite. Too much space taken up for tattoos.
 
A question for R's fans, do you think we can one-point our way into staying in the Championship? My arithmetic is very poor, or to be more honest, I am too lazy to work it out. Don't think it would be, got to win a few and stop this draw nonsense.
 
SwanHills said:
A question for R's fans, do you think we can one-point our way into staying in the Championship? My arithmetic is very poor, or to be more honest, I am too lazy to work it out. Don't think it would be, got to win a few and stop this draw nonsense.
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We have 16 points, there are 34 games left. If we drew all of those we would have 50 points. Last season that points tally would have you in 20th place ( fifth from bottom ) in the table. The three relegated teams went down with Charlton 40 points, MK Dons 39 and Bolton 30.
 
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No home comfort for lifeless Rangers – Report

Monday, 17th Oct 2016 14:57 by Jordan Foster

QPR's winless run at home continued after Danny Williams gave his Reading side a share of the spoils in what was another disappointing performance at Loftus Road. Jordan Foster was there for LFW.


Pawel Wszolek opened the scoring for the hosts after being found cleverly by youngster Olamide Shodipo early in the first half in what was their first meaningful attack of the afternoon.

But Reading replied soon after, the impressive Williams finishing from close range after poor defending from the home side.

Despite QPR ending the game with Sebastian Polter, Idrissa Sylla, Tjaronn Chery and Conor Washington all on the pitch it was the visitors, who had lost just once in nine Championship games, who pushed for a winner in the second half. Goalkeeper Alex Smithies denied Garath McCleary and Roy Beerens late on and his performance in general was a rare bright spark in what was a dreary afternoon in W12.

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/footba...no-home-comfort-for-lifeless-rangers-–-report
 
QPR999 said:
We have 16 points, there are 34 games left. If we drew all of those we would have 50 points. Last season that points tally would have you in 20th place ( fifth from bottom ) in the table. The three relegated teams went down with Charlton 40 points, MK Dons 39 and Bolton 30.
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Many thanks, QPR999, guess we had better starting actually winning a few!
 
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terrible when you look at it like that and school boy stuff if you allow a player to set a cross with that amount of time think how much time the player on the end of it has to dispatch it or adjust himself ... these examples show our opponents looking like they all have composure

Dreadful football
 
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