Match Day Thread QPR v Hull

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Good Morning ....I have had my night away...to cool down

First .....I would like to echo Bobmid..Peter Damages statements of fact are only opinions not facts. The difference between Peter and many people on here is most offer their opinions with various levels of knowledge, but all are welcome. Aggressive statements are not welcome and that is what I was objecting to

Going back to my opinion of the goal Peter (Beth said it was 110% Green's fault (but then eventually admitted Hall wasnt blameless- so may need to adjust that percentage). Not sure how that's any different to what I did. So double standards on here)....... what I said was ..."we had a point before Greens gaff...No Hall is not blameless but that goal was all down to Green"
I have now seen the replay, and I would like to continue with my opinion of that goal ...it was all down to Green.

To go back to another of my comments from last night that we are getting towards "last chance saloon"...
I appreciate loads of teams have plummtetted lower and bounced back...like Palace and Southampton...yes we could do that, but should we be trying not to do that.
I am worried about all this knee jerk reactions on here and elsewhere. We are demanding instant gratification and when we don't get it we act like spoilt children and throw our toys out of the pram.... sack the manager, sack the director of football, get rid of the chairman, change the crest, wheres the training ground...I want a new stadium...and I want it NOW!
....When you write it out like that you must admit it sounds ridiculous...????

So we sack the manager, DofF and Chairman what do we do then?

JFH has had 6 matches We have drawn 4 and lost 2 ................both to winners in stoppage time, both losses to teams in playoff positions.
During that time he has only limited usuage of Charlie Austin, he has had no opportunity to redress the imbalance in the team (which we can all see...no RB, no spare CF), he is only just getting to see the players in the squad, he has no opportunity to look at the players we have loaned out. He stated early on that the players were not up to the level of fitness he requires, and we have just got through a very dense Christmas period, which has stressed that point.

He is on a years-rolling contract....he can walk away in 11 months...please let us get behind him and the team and not throw our toys out the pram with such verocity

With regards to Palace and Southampton, both slumped but had the benefit of excellent academies and a constant supply of quality youngsters who came through and underpinned the team during their 'lean' years and both have risen dramatically thanks to such good set ups. We do not have that to fall back on, the way we are going we will face years of scratching about thanks to the stupidity of TF...
 
Good Morning ....I have had my night away...to cool down

First .....I would like to echo Bobmid..Peter Damages statements of fact are only opinions not facts. The difference between Peter and many people on here is most offer their opinions with various levels of knowledge, but all are welcome. Aggressive statements are not welcome and that is what I was objecting to

Going back to my opinion of the goal Peter (Beth said it was 110% Green's fault (but then eventually admitted Hall wasnt blameless- so may need to adjust that percentage). Not sure how that's any different to what I did. So double standards on here)....... what I said was ..."we had a point before Greens gaff...No Hall is not blameless but that goal was all down to Green"
I have now seen the replay, and I would like to continue with my opinion of that goal ...it was all down to Green.

To go back to another of my comments from last night that we are getting towards "last chance saloon"...
I appreciate loads of teams have plummtetted lower and bounced back...like Palace and Southampton...yes we could do that, but should we be trying not to do that.
I am worried about all this knee jerk reactions on here and elsewhere. We are demanding instant gratification and when we don't get it we act like spoilt children and throw our toys out of the pram.... sack the manager, sack the director of football, get rid of the chairman, change the crest, wheres the training ground...I want a new stadium...and I want it NOW!
....When you write it out like that you must admit it sounds ridiculous...????

So we sack the manager, DofF and Chairman what do we do then?

JFH has had 6 matches We have drawn 4 and lost 2 ................both to winners in stoppage time, both losses to teams in playoff positions.
During that time he has only limited usuage of Charlie Austin, he has had no opportunity to redress the imbalance in the team (which we can all see...no RB, no spare CF), he is only just getting to see the players in the squad, he has no opportunity to look at the players we have loaned out. He stated early on that the players were not up to the level of fitness he requires, and we have just got through a very dense Christmas period, which has stressed that point.

He is on a years-rolling contract....he can walk away in 11 months...please let us get behind him and the team and not throw our toys out the pram with such verocity
Firstly Beth I don't think you needed time to cool down nor do you have anything to apologise for. You maybe a Mod on this forum but first and foremost you are a supporter of our great [albeit slightly tarnished] club, therefore you are as entitled to express your opinion as anyone else.
I don't want to see anyone sacked, I would like JFH to be given time to shape his team and see where we go. Having said that, I do expect him to instill some pride into the team and get them playing with some passion and desire, both of which are sadly lacking at present. It will be interesting to see what happens during this transfer window, I fully expect Charlie to be gone by Feb 1st so it will be interesting to see what our strike force looks like by then.
Consolidation and stability is what I'm looking for from this point on.
 
Well the definition of fact is "something that is known or proven to be true"

It is certainly known and proven to be true that Faurlin is a better player than Henry

As for Warburton vs Ramsey it is known who is better. And as an added bit of clarity you can get your proven to be true about how much he overachieved and Ramsey underachieved in the Championship

We aren't talking about scientific facts when we talk about players and managers comparison but don't mistakenly think we aren't talking about facts

Peter, I appreciate your attempt to educate me on facts and opinions but unfortunately we will have to agree to disagree. There must be quite a lot of 'unknowns' going on behind the scenes for henry to still get selected despite the relevance of scientific facts or the other facts you mention (of which I presume you mean opinions)
 
They eat brown cheese with jam over there too...on the same piece of dried bread. What's that all about?
I've heard that someone buried it and marinated it for 100's of years, then dug it up, shaped it and cemented it onto a German football players head when he came to QPR. It's special powers will give goals.
 
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Good Morning ....I have had my night away...to cool down

First .....I would like to echo Bobmid..Peter Damages statements of fact are only opinions not facts. The difference between Peter and many people on here is most offer their opinions with various levels of knowledge, but all are welcome. Aggressive statements are not welcome and that is what I was objecting to

Going back to my opinion of the goal Peter (Beth said it was 110% Green's fault (but then eventually admitted Hall wasnt blameless- so may need to adjust that percentage). Not sure how that's any different to what I did. So double standards on here)....... what I said was ..."we had a point before Greens gaff...No Hall is not blameless but that goal was all down to Green"
I have now seen the replay, and I would like to continue with my opinion of that goal ...it was all down to Green.

To go back to another of my comments from last night that we are getting towards "last chance saloon"...
I appreciate loads of teams have plummtetted lower and bounced back...like Palace and Southampton...yes we could do that, but should we be trying not to do that.
I am worried about all this knee jerk reactions on here and elsewhere. We are demanding instant gratification and when we don't get it we act like spoilt children and throw our toys out of the pram.... sack the manager, sack the director of football, get rid of the chairman, change the crest, wheres the training ground...I want a new stadium...and I want it NOW!
....When you write it out like that you must admit it sounds ridiculous...????

So we sack the manager, DofF and Chairman what do we do then?

JFH has had 6 matches We have drawn 4 and lost 2 ................both to winners in stoppage time, both losses to teams in playoff positions.
During that time he has only limited usuage of Charlie Austin, he has had no opportunity to redress the imbalance in the team (which we can all see...no RB, no spare CF), he is only just getting to see the players in the squad, he has no opportunity to look at the players we have loaned out. He stated early on that the players were not up to the level of fitness he requires, and we have just got through a very dense Christmas period, which has stressed that point.

He is on a years-rolling contract....he can walk away in 11 months...please let us get behind him and the team and not throw our toys out the pram with such verocity


I don't want him sacked Beth. I just want him to pick the right players in their right positions. I really don't think it's that difficult.
 
I don't want him sacked Beth. I just want him to pick the right players in their right positions. I really don't think it's that difficult.


I so agree with you Col
But I do think JFH.....is doing the best with what we have at the moment....he is looking at everyone.
I think he is making his own decisions.
According to the rumour mill he is looking at two backs, and a striker....
If that is so....I am pleased...we will see
 
I so agree with you Col
But I do think JFH.....is doing the best with what we have at the moment....he is looking at everyone.
I think he is making his own decisions.
According to the rumour mill he is looking at two backs, and a striker....
If that is so....I am pleased...we will see

Yep. We will see.