Match Day Thread QPR v Carlisle

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The game was thrown imo. It's great to be able to play an experimental side but this club is in apposition that they have brought in a new team
Swap a few … evaluate the risk to key players yes but don't be so arrogant to play a side constructed on a training pitch in a cup that is disrespected
The question of who's up for it or not I thought had already been asked and answered … we lose, are outplayed by a poor performing league side and he comes back with bollocks about who's up for it? This breeds the wrong message and soon the regular first team players will be acting like superstars knowing no one in the stiffs is good enough. You drop a player and then try out a player that is doing well in training then it's a win win imo. The first team player raises his game while the incoming player has everything to prove … What CR did wrong was to announce in the press that he would rest players … by that i hope then the team that played last night was trained and prepared for that match? … it didn't look like it to me … it looked like he just picked a team on paper and guess what it went wrong again.

All this of course is rubbish if we win 3-0 at the weekend but so far QPR look very loose to me and will concede goals. I would of played the first choice bad five last night at the very least. Th rubbish about about a rest is rubbish you need more football playing in defence no less to get mental sharpness .. you need to get bite into game and play as a unit. Buying players like people claim on here and just dropping them in is complete idiotic rubbish! Exactly why QPR fans have become to be known as fickle. You need don howe type of man working on our unit 24/7 … we have the players that can be groomed.

We have two midfields at the moment so only two should of been swapped imo
Chery riding high needed to start, Faurlin needs more time that is clear to see

CR got it wrong and is looking very stupid blaming players he picked IMO

He has 6 games IMO to show us what some of us believe he is a brilliant coach … the manager stuff he looks to be learning the hard way but i will support him
 
Watford_R said:
Some serious over-reaction on this thread. Our second string played not great and lost to Carlisle. A chance for Hoilett in his supposed favourite position and he does **** all.

How did Polter play?
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Yes true, Watford_R, but a QPR fan is always inclined to over-react, the past few years anyway? That includes me. <laugh>
 
I was glad that he has said unacceptable....but he says the senior players did not perform apart from Hill?!!!...

Who exactly does he mean? Hoilett, well what does he expect.... and possibly JET. These two I wouldnt put in the team to motivate the rest/youngsters etc and if anything these two need confidence from experienced players!

Also where is Diakite?
 
sheffordqpr said:
It is a shame we are out of the cup as a trip to Liverpool would have been interesting. I think CR took a risk last night and it didn't pay off. He has hinted that Hoillet could be on his way out and I think that is probably the right decision, apart from the cross to sent up BZ at Wembley, he has done **** all.
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Don't think it would have worked out like that actually, had we gone through. Different set of circumstances and I believe a different ball number.
 
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Hoop-Leif said:
Ramsey’s side have now conceded two goals in all but one of their six matches this season.

“We’ve conceded two very soft goals again. I’m not happy. We’ve conceded two goals in every game and that cannot be right,” said Ramsey.

“It means that teams are coming to us and rubbing their hands, knowing that they’re going to score. It means we then have to score three or four goals to win a game and that’s not right."

That's what happens when you take a poor defense from last season, add practically naff all in the way of solid players in that area whilst overloading on as many midfielders as you can lay your hands on Chris.
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And have the perennial shyte pre-season. Not use a very winnable cup game to see who's good and who's not. Poor preparation and bad management nothing less.
 
ELLERS said:
You obviously were not at the Wigan play-off game or the Final because without him we would not have gone up.
Sorry but too many fans have short memories.

I cannot understand Hoilet because when he was at Blackburn he was brilliant. He comes to us and has flashes but then too many bad games. It must have something to do with our club. I remember Mike Sheron who scored everywhere he went bar QPR.
Are we cursed?

I read into the Hoilet situation more than him being S@@t. I really do believe our club is on a downer at the moment. Too much cr@p has gone on in the last 4 seasons with Hughes and Redcrapp and players are as p'd off as us fans. Take Diakite, what is happening with him? Why did McCarthy want out as soon as? Why was Vargas a bad egg? How many of our stars will leave on deadline day? And countless other things that always seem to happen at QPR.

I read posts that fans want their Rangers back? They need to know that we are a long way off (if we ever get there) of getting this club to function as a proper club again.

Last nights result is the tip of the iceberg. We have problems and i expect them to come out very shortly.
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I was at the final and we have to thank the Derby defender for our promotion because after all the diving around on the floor battling for the ball that's where Hoillett kicked it, straight to the Derby defender or did you see a measured pass to OBZ?
 
Peter Damage said:
I was there last night. It's just that with the exception of Polter, JET and Kpekwa those that came in to the team weren't good enough. Not that they didn't play well

Grego-Cox, Furlong, Hoilett, Gobern and on last night's evidence Doughty, are all not good enough and are League 2 standard at best. Difference is most of them are inexperienced as well so we're outplayed by a
better more experienced side.

Think Ramsey was using the game as a message to the board. Similar to Mourinho taking Terry off at half time as a message to buy stones or Redknapp picking 2 goalies to highlight lack of squad depth.

Only real black mark against Ramsey was putting Phillips on bench and using Comley instead
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I agree with a lot of this.
Grego-Cox is a player fans have been calling to be included in squads for a while now ("Why consider Best for the bench when we have GC?). Furlong featured for us last season, and is 2nd choice right back. Doughty is someone many have suggested should replace Henry in our starting lineup.

I was very disappointed with all of these players- and their inclusion wasn't disdainful in my opinion. Our first team had played 2 games in 4 days, 3 games in 8 days, and looked knackered Vs Rotherham on the hottest day of the year. It's a shame Gladwin/Mackie/Yun were injured yesterday as they'd have obviously started.

Everybody who played yesterday is supposedly on the verge of the 1st team, and should feel they have point to prove- so rightfully questions need to be asked about the depth of our squad now (particularly if/when Austin/Phillips/Fer leave).
The criticisms of Ramsey are unfounded.
 
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TWGWTDT said:
Resting players is crazy IMO

I hope the club learns from this stupidity and a game to really test our team against Liverpool is gone
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A couple of points...
1. Would that still have been your view had a key member of the squad got injured? You probably would have been moaning about CR not resting the key players as it is the league which is important.

2. The chances of it being Liverpool had we gone through are very slim, so it probably would not have been Liverpool. It was not a pre determined draw, it would have been in different circumstances, and the ball number would have been different.
 
Madrid_Ranger said:
I was at the final and we have to thank the Derby defender for our promotion because after all the diving around on the floor battling for the ball that's where Hoillett kicked it, straight to the Derby defender or did you see a measured pass to OBZ?
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.....<doh>
 
aqualung said:
A couple of points...
1. Would that still have been your view had a key member of the squad got injured? You probably would have been moaning about CR not resting the key players as it is the league which is important.

2. The chances of it being Liverpool had we gone through are very slim, so it probably would not have been Liverpool. It was not a pre determined draw, it would have been in different circumstances, and the ball number would have been different.
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Nope re injuries that's football its just inside a QPR fan's mind that we will lose a player … percentage wise it doesn't happen.
Agree our balls would of been different
 
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Grifter said:
I agree with a lot of this.
Grego-Cox is a player fans have been calling to be included in squads for a while now ("Why consider Best for the bench when we have GC?). Furlong featured for us last season, and is 2nd choice right back. Doughty is someone many have suggested should replace Henry in our starting lineup.

I was very disappointed with all of these players- and their inclusion wasn't disdainful in my opinion. Our first team had played 2 games in 4 days, 3 games in 8 days, and looked knackered Vs Rotherham on the hottest day of the year. It's a shame Gladwin/Mackie/Yun were injured yesterday as they'd have obviously started.

Everybody who played yesterday is supposedly on the verge of the 1st team, and should feel they have point to prove- so rightfully questions need to be asked about the depth of our squad now (particularly if/when Austin/Phillips/Fer leave).
The criticisms of Ramsey are unfounded.
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Agree with this. A few too many changes for me but this was a team that should have been up to the task. Ramsey gave them a shot and they didn't respond. That said I do like the look of Polter.
 
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Can't understand all the bleating on here. We played virtually a complete second XI which included several young players making their first start for the first team. Our youth team competes at the third tier of national competition and not very successfully at that level, to expect them to suddenly be capable of producing results even against League Two teams is ridiculous and against Championship teams in the League would be suicidal.

Our youth set-up has been shyte for over a decade and is still way behind many teams competing at a lower level than us. We never progress in the FA Youth Cup and until this serious weakness is addressed we'll never get anywhere with our own home-produced youngsters. It will take at least 7-8 years before any players capable of progressing straight into the first team become available, and that's assuming we take the necessary steps to get an Academy worthy of the club's name up and running asap.

We will need to buy promising youngsters in the meantime but those who think we have a squad capable of seeing us through a rash of injuries/suspensions got the wake-up call last night, our back-up just isn't anywhere near Championship quality...
 
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TWGWTDT said:
Nope re injuries that's football its just inside a QPR fan's mind that we will lose a player … percentage wise it doesn't happen.
Agree our balls would of been different
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Injuries are considerably more likely if it's that player's third game in seven days which would have been the case for all our key players. I doubt the board would have wanted Austin or Phillips risked given one or the other is probably to be sold this week.
 
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