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OK - the term 'skiving' is now in common use to describe somebody avoiding work or not pulling their weight - but how and where did the term originate from ?
 
Skiver was the original name for a kind of book binder who used very thin materials for working and was viewed by leather workers as cutting corners to save time and labour.
 
colognehornet said:
Skiver was the original name for a kind of book binder who used very thin materials for working and was viewed by leather workers as cutting corners to save time and labour.
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Not the derivation I have - but you are close from a materials perspective yet you are not as qualified to comment as another poster (cryptic)
 
yorkshirehornet said:
aha.... is it to do with leather for boots and cutting corners to save time and cost by using slim cuts?
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you got it - but actually wasn't cutting corners - each pair of boots is generally made of four panels - if you simply stitched them together where they meet each other and the upper / sole you'd get a ridge or bulge - so the edges of the leather are shaved down with an incredibly sharp tool - the 'skiving' tool - this was the only job in the traditional factories that was undertaken sitting down - hence 'skiving' was 'sitting down on the job' - had this first hand whilst having a factory tour at the Dr Martens factory in Wollaston, Northants only a couple of weeks ago.
 
FosseFilberto said:
you got it - but actually wasn't cutting corners - each pair of boots is generally made of four panels - if you simply stitched them together where they meet each other and the upper / sole you'd get a ridge or bulge - so the edges of the leather are shaved down with an incredibly sharp tool - the 'skiving' tool - this was the only job in the traditional factories that was undertaken sitting down - hence 'skiving' was 'sitting down on the job' - had this first hand whilst having a factory tour at the Dr Martens factory in Wollaston, Northants only a couple of weeks ago.
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That was a really good one... .and interesting <ok>

over to me... (but remembering ak is due to ask one too)....
 
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