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Gone For A Walk said:
Last night (Southampton) we saw real progress.

Well done Rosenior. This time we out thought and out fought the opposition.

Rosenior has repeatedly said he wants the players to be brave. Words are easy. Last night, finally, they were. It just shows what we can do when we (are allowed to) play with bravery, energy, positivity, pressing. As was said following Cardiff, the bar has been set; let's keep it up now.

On the practical side, he has to get Allsop & Seri to cut out those ridiculous passes which nearly cost us dearly last night. If they had scored from the early one (of 2 or 3), which they should have done, it would likely have been quite a different outcome last night. We also have to get to be a lot more clinical; we wasted so many really good chances, especially but not only first half.

Well done. Superb performance, particularly including from Rosenior for the way he set us up and had us playing. <applause> We knew the team has it in them, which is I guess why some of us get so frustrated when we don't see the qualities we saw last night.
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Are you suggesting Southampton allowed us to play bravely or that LR was lying previously when he said he wanted us to be brave and secretly he was telling them not to be? Surely not, so presumably you're referring to Southampton's style of play. Which indicates we won't be able to play in that way in each game. The level of performance can be maintained though and a lot, as many of us have said, comes down to the mentality of the players, who regularly seem to take their foot off the gas rather than continue pressing teams, as happened against Millwall.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Are you suggesting Southampton allowed us to play bravely or that LR was lying previously when he said he wanted us to be brave and secretly he was telling them not to be? Surely not, so presumably you're referring to Southampton's style of play. Which indicates we won't be able to play in that way in each game. The level of performance can be maintained though and a lot, as many of us have said, comes down to the mentality of the players, who regularly seem to take their foot off the gas rather than continue pressing teams, as happened against Millwall.
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How do you even get to suggesting LR was lying from that post,it was obvious he was meaning teams allowing us the freedom to play that way , that was some twist on it by you.
 
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1MoreAgain said:
How do you even get to suggesting LR was lying from that post,it was obvious he was meaning teams allowing us the freedom to play that way , that was some twist on it by you.
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He said the team is now allowed to, despite LR previously asking them to play with freedom. I'm merely asking who 'allowed' them to. I even say in my post I presume he means Southampton as the alternative, as you suggest, is simply ridiculous.

The only one doing the twisting here is you, or you didn't read my whole post in your eagerness to tell me how wrong I am.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
He said the team is now allowed to, despite LR previously asking them to play with freedom. I'm merely asking who 'allowed' them to. I even say in my post I presume he means Southampton as the alternative, as you suggest, is simply ridiculous.
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Why even say that unless you wanted others to think he had suggested that, you are good at twisting **** and worming out of it.
 
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1MoreAgain said:
Why even say that unless you wanted others to think he had suggested that, you are good at twisting **** and worming out of it.
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What on earth are you on about now? Give it a rest.

Read the full post and move on. You're claiming I've made a point I haven't, and are accusing me of twisting things when I haven't, and are now saying I'm trying to worm out of it! <laugh>
 
1MoreAgain said:
For me i think auto's are gone can't expect Southampton, TWS, Ipswich to all collapse might be interesting to see if we could sneak 4th though.
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I would have thought 4th more likely a week or two ago but sadly Ipswich seem to be picking up steam again after a big wobble. Southampton could dip a bit now though, who knows. We'd only be 10 off them if we hadn't stuffed up with Swansea..
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
I do wonder how close we'd get to the autos with 13 wins, but with the pace of Leeds and Leicester sadly I don't even think that would do it.
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93 points would have got you auto at least the last 4 seasons (I could not be arsed checking further back). Obviously it won't happen anyway. Playoffs it is! You Ull
 
Idi Amin said:
93 points would have got you auto at least the last 4 seasons (I could not be arsed checking further back). Obviously it won't happen anyway. Playoffs it is! You Ull
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Yeah issue is the record breaking pace of the sides up there this season. Looked at another way we'd have to win 6 more games than Leeds and Ipswich and 5 more than Southampton, meaning we'd need none of those sides to win more than 7 of their remaining 13. Can't be bothered to work out what draws does but think that makes it even trickier, so really they'd all need to win 5 or less, which just isn't happening. If we can get 4th somehow though then I think that means second leg of the play offs would be at home? Which given the pitch and our away form may well actually be a disadvantage! Take 5th, host Ipswich/Southampton, then go to theirs and batter them to book Wembley!
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
I would have thought 4th more likely a week or two ago but sadly Ipswich seem to be picking up steam again after a big wobble. Southampton could dip a bit now though, who knows. We'd only be 10 off them if we hadn't stuffed up with Swansea..
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I think Ipswich may finish 4th so probably best if we could finish 5th or 4th and they finish 5th rather play them then TWS or Southampton in Play off semi if we get there.
 
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1MoreAgain said:
16 Times.
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Greedy. Hypothetically, if we won every game between now and the end of the season, we would end up with 93 points. The average is about 88 points for automatic promotion. It would require Leeds to lose five games, of course, or Leicester to implode for some reason, which probably won't happen.

Our final games are as follows:

February

WBA (h)

March

Preston (a)
Birmingham (h)
Leicester (h)
Coventry (a)
Stoke (h)

April

Leeds (a)
Cardiff (a)
M'Boro (h)
QPR (h)
Watford (a)
Ipswich (h)

May

Plymouth (a)

Leeds and Leicester play each other on Saturday at Elland Road, so somebody is dropping points there. Leicester win that and they're probably up barring a miracle. We win and Leeds lose and the gap between us drops to 12 points. It does look like we have a difficult run in, but we play everybody above us, which allows us to gain ground assuming we don't cock it up ourselves. By the time we play Leeds on April 1st, (the last time we did, we won 1-0 thanks to Jon Parkin) that gap could be considerably smaller as Leeds are still in the FA Cup so will play an extra game.

Leicester aside (whom we've already beaten once, no fear), there's nobody in that March run in that we should be worrying about playing and getting a win from. Leeds also play Southampton on the final day, which could also work in our favour. Leicester have Southampton the weekend we are away at Coventry, so that's going to be a pivotal matchweek for us.

I'm a practical man, so obviously this isn't going to happen, but it does highlight the fine margins and the cost of not picking up those points before Xmas in games we should have won. We also want to be in the best form and shape possible for a play off run should we make it, so the more points the better.
 
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Steven Toast said:
Greedy. Hypothetically, if we won every game between now and the end of the season, we would end up with 91 points. The average is about 88 points for automatic promotion. It would require Leeds to lose five games, of course, or Leicester to implode for some reason, which probably won't happen.

Our final games are as follows:

February

WBA (h)

March

Preston (a)
Birmingham (h)
Leicester (h)
Coventry (a)
Stoke (h)

April

Leeds (a)
Cardiff (a)
M'Boro (h)
QPR (h)
Watford (a)
Ipswich (h)

May

Plymouth (a)

Leeds and Leicester play each other on Saturday at Elland Road, so somebody is dropping points there. Leicester win that and they're probably up barring a miracle. We win and Leeds lose and the gap between us drops to 12 points. It does look like we have a difficult run in, but we play everybody above us, which allows us to gain ground assuming we don't cock it up ourselves. By the time we play Leeds on April 1st, (the last time we did, we won 1-0 thanks to Jon Parkin) that gap could be considerably smaller as Leeds are still in the FA Cup so will play an extra game.

Leicester aside (whom we've already beaten once, no fear), there's nobody in that March run in that we should be worrying about playing and getting a win from. Leeds also play Southampton on the final day, which could also work in our favour. Leicester have Southampton the weekend we are away at Coventry, so that's going to be a pivotal matchweek for us.

I'm a practical man, so obviously this isn't going to happen, but it does highlight the fine margins and the cost of not picking up those points before Xmas in games we should have won. We also want to be in the best form and shape possible for a play off run should we make it, so the more points the better.
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93! I'm not a mathematician, but 93.

Do you teach young humans toast rack! :emoticon-0138-think
 
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