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tiger_rag

tiger_rag

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Couldn't find another thread on this so thought would just say...

Pearsons programme notes from the leeds game were refreshingly honest but my main point to discuss is this

Unfortunately tonight Leeds will have the entire North Stand and this has to be the
last time that happens if at all possible. We get tucked away in the corner with a
couple of thousand tickets at Elland Road and it can’t be right that we have to give
the whole stand to Leeds when they come to the KC. They are entitled to 10% under
Football League rules, however because of segregation requirements we can’t get
Hull City fans in that end as well, so we have had to give the whole stand to Leeds,
although the capacity is cut due to the visiting supporters having a tendency to stand
all game!! Next season we are, if at all possible, going to attempt to relocate away
supporters for every game so that we can have a North Stand full of season ticket
holding Hull City supporters. We feel sure this will improve the atmosphere at the KC
and give the home supporters their right to be behind both goals with decent facilities
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If the plan seem to be to relocate the away fans to another area of the stadium, where would be the logical choice?

Some people i'm sure would object to this but I reckon E1 is the best place for them. It would; keep the proximity to the home fans the same, make the north stand more of a natural "Kop End", stop the away fans from taking over the top tier of the west stand and giving them a voice where we have none(sorry west stand fans but you're not exactly the most vocal), and finally from a sheer logistical point of view it would be cheaper and easier to move the security measures and away coach parking areas.
 
Put them in the middle of the east stand, half way line area. Then they would have city fans either side of them. This may require a bit of netting between them,
City fans could then have the north and south stand as potential Kops. Keep the filthy animal awy fans in the ground for an hour and then escort them to their designated parking area in perry street, where neil Hudgells ambulance chasers could hand out the relevant forms relating
to car fires started by electrical faults.
 
We feel sure this will improve the atmosphere at the KC
and give the home supporters their right to be behind both goals with decent facilities
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We would effectively have two "Kops" so is suppose it wouldn't really matter which end became the "official" one. furthermore I think that having the away fans boxed in into E1 with home fans on both sides could potentially quiet them down a bit, if we took the lead early on they would just be enveloped in noise from all sides.

just a thought though but how would any of these plans would impact on the egg-chasers? i would assume if any structural work needed to be done we would have to do it during our season so as not to impact on any of their home games and as any reduction in capacity incurred would result in us having to supplement their gate reciepts.
 
I don't mind moving to the North stand. What, half of the east stand could fit in North i'm guessing?
 
I do have a problem with it. I have a seat almost on the halfway line in the East Stand. I have no desire to be moved into the North Stand where:

1) my view of the South end of the pitch will be poor
2) I won't be able to see the screen properly for replays of the incidents I can no longer see,
3) if I'm on the train home after the match I'll have to leave early in order to get right round the ground to get to the station on time (I can just about make it now leaving dead on the whistle with a bit of running)

And this whole move is because we have a right to be behind both goals? Why does East Stand with around 6,000 seats always sell out before the South Stand with 4,000 seats? Clearly I'm not the only one that doesn't want to sit behind a goal, it must be the majority view or the smaller stand behind the goal would sell out first.
 
I'm not too bothered where they go. As long as they don't move them to W4 which is doubtful anyway.
 
They'll be split between top and bottom tier in the West Stand like teams such as Man City do, this breaks up the away fans and creates a divide between them not giving them as much vocal support because it's broken over 2 tiers and you can't get continuity.

The logistics of this would also be quite simple in the West Stand, just put some metal partitions up or they could even brick it (concourse area of course) and put the netting up within the seats.

I think this is the only viable solution in all honest as they have to have at least 2,500 seats, if we gave them that mann in the East STand they would have about 2/5's of the stand.
 
If they do stick them in WS, I don't want to move to either the NS or the SS. I hate going behind the goals, I was stuck there last season.
 
ManchesterTiger said:
They'll be split between top and bottom tier in the West Stand like teams such as Man City do, this breaks up the away fans and creates a divide between them not giving them as much vocal support because it's broken over 2 tiers and you can't get continuity.

The logistics of this would also be quite simple in the West Stand, just put some metal partitions up or they could even brick it (concourse area of course) and put the netting up within the seats.

I think this is the only viable solution in all honest as they have to have at least 2,500 seats, if we gave them that mann in the East STand they would have about 2/5's of the stand.
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Not a chance, they'll stay in the North East corner.

Firstly, because they want to keep the distance between the away coaches and the away entrance as short as possible, so there's minimal contact between home and away fans.

Secondly, because the West Stand Premier Club members pay over double what everyone else pays, for which they get the use of the members bars(which are behind the West Stand). They can't move the bars, so they can't move the fans, they also don't want to upset them with a bunch of noisy away fans.
 
Bad for people who have signed up already for next year with the twelve month plan. "Yeah you know that seat you're paying for, well you can't actually have it".
 
originallambrettaman said:
Not a chance, they'll stay in the North East corner.

Firstly, because they want to keep the distance between the away coaches and the away entrance as short as possible, so there's minimal contact between home and away fans.

Secondly, because the West Stand Premier Club members pay over double what everyone else pays, for which they get the use of the members bars(which are behind the West Stand). They can't move the bars, so they can't move the fans, they also don't want to upset them with a bunch of noisy away fans.
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Actually, scrub the second part, I just checked and the first three blocks of the west stand lower aren't corporate.
 
originallambrettaman said:
Actually, scrub the second part, I just checked and the first three blocks of the west stand lower aren't corporate.
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Even then i think your first point about putting noisy away fans next to the high-paying members will be the reason they don't go there.


Let's face it they aren't going to put them in the middle of a stand or else it wouldn't solve the problm about segregating it would only move it, so you needn't worry about losing your seat on the halfway line Ricardo (same as me). They'll most likely be put in the East Stand in the North corner and only the E1,2 & 3 fans will be forced to move. Though let's be honest most of these fans are only there to be next to away fans, not for the view so swapping them around won't bother them, also turning the North into a bit of a Kop style end could happen as they're clearly the loudest section of our support.

Just speculating obviously but that's what i see as probable
 
What ever the people in charge decide to do they will do regardless of anything any of us say, It will be a case of like it or **** off.
 
for all the reasons mentioned previously regarding cost of tickets in the west stand i firmly believe that they won't move them there.
 
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Apparently, we're planning on doing something like the set-up at the Walkers, which was built by the same contractors.
 
Seems fair enough. Is this likely to start from the beginning of next season?
Will people who are forced to move from their current seats get first choice of where they move to?
Is there likely to be a fans forum at the KC anytime in the foreseeable?
 
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