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  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    But who has given him the chance :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  2. Red Robin

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    Absolutely spot in
     
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  3. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    LJ?
    (I’ll get my coat……. <whistle>)
     
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  5. Supcon72

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    Hang on a cotton-picking minute, you can't have it both ways. When people, including me, have praised LJ for bringing through Reid, Bryan, Kelly etc, all the haters like you said, but, but, but, he didn't sign them! The same goes for NP then, he didn't sign Scott or Pring, LJ did!
     
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  6. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Is that like LJ giving all of Cotts signings a chance :emoticon-0133-wait:<laugh>
     
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  7. Jiffie

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    More BS for LJ's over egged CV from you. For the very last time Reid and Bryan were already well established having been used by SOD and more extensively by Cotterill, they were certainly never 'brought through' by LJ and Kelly was dropped to the bench for DaSilva in the last 10/12 games of the season before he was sold to Bournemouth, but I will give him that one.

    It's you that cannot have it both ways, the only reason you see haters is because you invent stuff he is not responsible for and trying to claim (even in jest) that somehow LJ had a hand in Pring's progression is a joke, Pring said in his very first interview at the start of this season, he was made to feel unwanted.

    If anybody deserves the praise for his progression, it's the player himself, showing a big set of balls, it's a big pity some of the squad don't have the same commitment and fair play to him.
     
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  8. Supcon72

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    I see you’re really nailing your colours to the LJ hate mast lately, despite protesting the opposite for so long. I knew this post would bait the haters<laugh><laugh>
     
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  9. Jiffie

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    Again nothing to do with hate and everything to do with lies and BS. I know your post about Pring was bait but your post about Bryan and Reid and not for the first time was a lie and BS, claiming that a poster couldn’t have it both ways, when by claiming what you claimed it was you trying to have it both ways, Bryan and Reid were established by the time LJ took over end of story. As I keep saying I cannot think of a single manager from Fred Ford to Holden who didn’t deserve to get the sack when that happened and I would have the same feeling if that happened to Pearson now. Like I said I wouldn’t credit Pearson with Pring’s emergence that is purely down to the player himself and showed a spirit lacking in some of the so called senior players.
     
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  10. Supcon72

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    Reid was hardly "established" before LJ arrived, as you will see below. He had been out on loan in L2 the season before LJ arrived. LJ brought him through and sold him at a high profit, no lies there Jiffie!

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    I will give you that Joe Bryan was more "established", but again, the best form we ever saw from him was under LJ, in fact , I'd argue he's never got back to that level since he left!
     
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  11. Jiffie

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    It is a lie, I don't know what you think you read or if maths is not a strong point but add them up, Reid made around 50 appearances before LJ arrived, which accounts for around a third of his total performances for BCFC. 'LJ did not bring him through', end of conversation.

    His form has nothing to do with being 'brought through'.

    Now if your claim was specifically he converted Reid to a striker and Bryan's consistency improved, that is a totally different point and valid, but neither were brought through by LJ.
     
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  12. Supcon72

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    It's not my maths in question? The 5 seasons before LJ arrived, Reid played 41 times (no ideas, but I'd guess most of those were from the bench), so 8 games a season. The least amount of games we would have played in each of those seasons was between 48-50, in my book that is not established!. LJ joined in Feb 16, so I'm not sure of the split of games he played under SC, and then LJ. But, without doubt LJ gave him the most game time of his City career, and I class that as bringing him through. In the same way NP is now with Pring.
     
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  13. bcfcredandwhite

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    Yeah, but that was only because there was nobody else available apparently according to some; Scott Murray was too old to be recalled and even the tea lady was injured, so Bobby was reluctantly played by default by LJ, crying with a gun to his head, because there was no-one else available. No 'intelligent' management decision or deliberate selection involved.
     
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  14. Supcon72

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    So the same now with Scott then?
     
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  15. oneforthebristolcity

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    Can't have it both ways mate <laugh>
     
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  16. Jiffie

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    Again wrong, the basis of the 'regular inherited squad' has been started for most of the season normally 7 starters and 4 on the bench and the results/performances speak for themselves.

    Recently only 3 inherited players have started and performances are improving, on Saturday 4 inherited regulars started and it has been described by most (even on here) as the best performance of the season so far, only running out of momentum towards the end of normal time and into extra time when 7 inherited regulars were on the pitch.

    Scott is playing on merit alone, because he is better than most of the inherited peers that he is up against, he is a huge talent at 18 years old and quite happy even to fill in at full back and exactly the same can be said about LJ's selection of Reid, he was better than most of LJ's inherited regulars/peers and if memory serves filled in at right back a couple of times.
     
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  17. Redprintt

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    When LJ was given the HC's job at AG in 2016 I said back then he was the wrong man for our club because of his 'history' and it would split our fan base.

    5 years later these continuing spats confirm it.
     
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