Off Topic Prince Andrew

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No Barry ... I said that such arrangements happened... do you think parties at the Playboy Mansion were to play follow the leader <doh> ...

Your snidey little insinuations are typical of your character tbf ... not sure I should expect much else by now.
Unbelievable.
 
Straight into your usual brand of **** ad hominem I see.

Your original post came across as apologist nonsense. You ignored the fact that these young women he was being ‘served up’ weren’t prostitutes, they were coerced and trafficked teenagers, and he must have known this, and kept coming back for more, even after the orchestrator had done time for it (a ridiculously short sentence made sweet for him by the US establishment btw).

I'm no fan of the guy and have not once condoned his behaviour. My own moral code is completely at the other end of the spectrum. But I am happy to point out flaws in some of the points and comments being made - that is in my nature. I've not ignored anything. How do you know that he 'must have known' they were coerced and trafficked teenagers Barry? ... is that just an opinion? **** me... don't go having one of them. Now about arrogance...
 
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It's not just Tobes and myself who have clocked that your opinion on this subject is very ****ing weird. Your ... and <laugh> essays won't change the fact that multiple people have commented on the fact that you think Andrew just did what rich folk do.

Sure Wayne ... multiple people? ... <laugh>

Andrew did what powerful people do ... exploit others ... if you can find where I have once condoned it or said it is in any way acceptable, please quote... otherwise back under your bridge and comb your face, you slimey little troll ... your agenda is getting the better of you .<cheers>
 
I'm no fan of the guy and gave not once condoned his behaviour. My own moral code is completely at the other end of the spectrum. But I am happy to pint out flaws in some of the points and comments being made - that is in my nature. I've not ignored anything. How do you know that he 'must have known' they were coerced and trafficked teenagers Barry? ... is that just an opinion? **** me... don't go having one of them. Now about arrogance...

Either you can’t resist playing a **** devils advocate or you’re an apologist, take your pick.

Of course he knew ffs. Do you think he went to Epstein’s parties thinking that these teenagers (many of whom didn’t speak English) were satisfying his middle aged carnal desires because they just happened to stumble across the multi millionaire that was Epstein, and they genuinely fancied the idea?

These girls were victims of abuse but you seem to want to portray it was just being ‘one of those things’. It wasn’t, Epstein lead a disgusting select sex club for the rich and famous, a club who’s ‘offering’ was trafficked young girls. But yeah Andrew didn’t know or something.
 
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Sure Wayne ... multiple people? ... <laugh>

Andrew did what powerful people do ... exploit others ... if you can find where I have once condoned it or said it is in any way acceptable, please quote... otherwise back under your bridge and comb your face, you slimey little troll ... your agenda is getting the better of you .<cheers>
Westy
brb
Libby
Wayne
Barry

That’s five so therefore multiple people. If Quentin Quentin Quentin was still posting it would be eight.

Your views are so stuck in the 80s. Dull agrees with you though! <laugh>
 
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Andrew claimed he doesn’t sweat....guess what....he lied.

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Westy
brb
Libby
Wayne
Barry

That’s five so therefore multiple people. If Quentin Quentin Quentin was still posting it would be eight.

Your views are so stuck in the 80s. Dull agrees with you though! <laugh>
The cheeky Dull like, as he was trying to stick one in my ribs, love it <laugh>
 
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Sure Wayne ... multiple people? ... <laugh>

Andrew did what powerful people do ... exploit others ... if you can find where I have once condoned it or said it is in any way acceptable, please quote... otherwise back under your bridge and comb your face, you slimey little troll ... your agenda is getting the better of you .<cheers>

Fosse, I'm going to jump in here and say, I was surprised by your first response to me. I gave benefit of doubt, because people generally read a first comment, before realising in later comments, where someone is coming from.

The first comment of mine you replied to, was not even having a go at Andrew, it was a simple straight forward question alongside that photograph that asked; how can he not remember her.

You will have noted as the conversation went on that i had not followed the story. I therefore happily back tracked (quite rightly) on some of my earlier comments as I was faced with facts by members on here. There is no shame in backtracking, I see it as educating myself on a situation, I suggest you do the same my friend <ok>

ps. I do knowledge your later kinder stance towards me in comments btw.
 
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The cheeky Dull like, as he was trying to stick one in my ribs, love it <laugh>

You flatter yourself. It's simply your pomposity that makes you want that to be true. You're actually an irrelevance love. :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
You flatter yourself. It's simply your pomposity that makes you want that to be true. You're actually an irrelevance love. :emoticon-0105-wink:

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Fosse, I'm going to jump here and say, I was surprised by your first response to me. I gave benefit of doubt, because people generally read a first comment, before realising in later comments, where someone is coming from.

The first comment of mine you replied to, was not even having a go at Andrew, it was a simple straight forward question alongside that photograph that asked; how can he not remember her.

You will have noted as the conversation went on that i had not followed the story. I therefore happily back tracked (quite rightly) on some of my earlier comments as I was faced with facts by members on here. There is no shame on backtracking, I see it as educating myself on a situation, I suggest you do the same my friend <ok>

Nothing to backtrack on my friend. All I did was comment that all the photo actually proves is that they were at the same party / venue. He is also claiming it is a fake. Looks real enough to me.

Now if he did have sex with the girl he should remember her. If all he did was pose for a snap then possibly he wouldn't.

Unlike some I don't claim to know what happened. All I've said is that he has probably had loads of girls lined up for him by powerful acquaintances during his life. Books written and films made have documented the excesses of the rich and powerful. Do I think that is right? Absolutely not. My usual fan boys jumped on that to insinuate that I 'approved' of such behaviour - again absolutely not ... but the agenda isn't bothered about my actual comments if a derogatory inference can be made.

I abhor the power of money and the privileges it brings. There are no silver spoons where I was brought up. I'm also a proud father of 3 girls and fiercely protective of them. So some of the inferences made or hinted at by Barry and Wayne are both distasteful and completely without foundation... but when has that ever stopped either?
 
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Nothing to backtrack on my friend. All I did was comment that all the photo actually proves is that they were at the same party / venue. He is also claiming it is a fake. Looks real enough to me.

Now if he did have sex with the girl he should remember her. If all he did was pose for a snap then possibly he wouldn't.

Unlike some I don't claim to know what happened. All I've said is that he has probably had loads of girls lined up for him by powerful acquaintances during his life. Books written and films made have documented the excesses of the rich and powerful. Do I think that is right? Absolutely not. My usual fan boys jumped on that to insinuate that I 'approved' of such behaviour - again absolutely not ... but the agenda isn't bothered about my actual comments if a derogatory inference can be made.

I abhor the power of money and the privileges it brings. There are no silver spoons where I was brought up. I'm also a proud father of 3 girls and fiercely protective of them. So some of the inferences made or hinted at by Barry and Wayne are both distasteful and completely without foundation... but when has that ever stopped either?

Fosse, the interview on the BBC last night was a car crash. He was like a rabbit (no pun intended) blinded by the headlights. I'd be the first on here to hold a contrary opinion, but with this one the Prince has a lot to answer, and he needs to start finding his Palace diaries, to where he was on certain dates and at certain times, because I know damn well the media will already be investigating them. Whoever thought this interview was a great idea, well I'm lost for words
 
I'm also a proud father of 3 girls and fiercely protective of them. So some of the inferences made or hinted at by Barry and Wayne are both distasteful and completely without foundation... but when has that ever stopped either?

Even by your standards that’s an absolutely pathetic attempt at faux victimhood.
 
The Prince's media advisor resigned two weeks ago after telling Andrew not to do the interview.
 
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