Off Topic Prince Andrew

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FosseFilberto said:
Then playing devil's advocate, does she look like she doesn't want to be there in the 'damning' photo?
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Not sure that would be a great piece of evidence for the defence. It’s a big jump from wanting to pose for a photo whilst in the process of being groomed to wanting to shag a man 30 years older than you as a teenager.
 
brb said:
About sums it up for me. Imho he was lying through his teeth. And he also wanted to paint a picture of what a great guy he was, forces, nspcc...yet slept at a sex offenders house, because it was convenient!
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I agree on this ... he can't be selective about which memories are vivid and which aren't ... when the only vivid ones are 'helpful'
 
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Quesadaad said:
Probably smashed a Nando’s in Dagenham
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I recall it vividly as Eugenie called me at 10:23 to let me know her cat, Fifi, was visiting the vet that day, haha. I had chicken thighs medium but with the hot sauce on the side, halloumi- which I developed a taste for as a naval man during my stint in Greece and garlic bread. I ordered tap water but filled the cup with Sprite so I can’t pretend to be entirely innocent, haha.
 
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West WindsR said:
I recall it vividly as Eugenie called me at 10:23 to let me know her cat, Fifi, was visiting the vet that day, haha. I had chicken thighs medium but with the hot sauce on the side, halloumi- which I developed a taste for as a naval man during my stint in Greece and garlic bread. I ordered tap water but filled the cup with Sprite so I can’t pretend to be entirely innocent, haha.
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West WindsR said:
He would’ve walked away from the interview confident it painted him in a good light and that was the matter done with.
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Yup. You could see the arrogance, of someone who saw themselves as a leader and intelligent enough to fool the masses. Yet not smart enough to know we saw straight through him, I guess that's what a sheltered life and wealth brings.
 
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brb said:
Yup. You could see the arrogance, of someone who saw themselves as a leader and intelligent enough to fool the masses. Yet not smart enough to know we saw straight through him, I guess that's what a sheltered life and wealth brings.
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Indeed ... arrogance is not solely the prerogative of the wealthy mind but stems from power above all .. for me.
 
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West WindsR said:
Not sure that would be a great piece of evidence for the defence. It’s a big jump from wanting to pose for a photo whilst in the process of being groomed to wanting to shag a man 30 years older than you as a teenager.
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She had a picture taken with him. It's clear she wanted to **** a guy who was 25 years older than her.
 
FosseFilberto said:
How many times do you think he has been asked for a pic? the photo itself proves nothing other than that they were at the same party ... if the photo is real. I thought he was saying that it's a fake and that he wouldn't have dressed like that blah blah ... the photo's authenticity can surely be tested by experts?

My own view is that she is likely one of hundreds made available to him by Epstein and possibly others with that kind of wealth and pull. A symbiotic relationship - he gets a bevy of beauties they get to say "My buddy, the Prince".

I doubt he stopped to ask every girl he met through such events their age and even if he did they may not have been too honest if they thought they might have to leave such trendy company.

There seems to be no question of rape so his real crime seems to be taking advantage of his position. He showed a real error of judgement in going to see Epstein after his conviction... although somebody at work said something that did give me pause for thought ... they were undoubtedly very good mates and how would any of us act if one of our best mates was convicted of something? ... immediately cut off all contact? or want to find out for yourself? particularly if they are claiming to be innocent... Andrew's biggest problem in that regard is who he is ... and visiting Epstein so publicly was a huge error of judgement.

... but there is also real and important news in the world.
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****ing hell, did you tug your forelock after posting that?
 
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Stan said:
Fair enough. He's rich. It's perfectly acceptable for perverts to traffic young girls to him. How could I be so naive?!!!
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Try not to be such a twat ... I have not once said any aspect of his behaviour is acceptable ... you need a different crusade mate, I really am not interested.
 
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FosseFilberto said:
Try not to be such a twat ... I have not once said any aspect of his behaviour is acceptable ... you need a different crusade mate, I really am not interested.
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You've, astonishingly, said that it's pretty normal for people in his position. It's not normal for anyone to exploit young girls.

Yes, I know you have daughters.
 
Tobes said:
****ing hell, did you tug your forelock after posting that?
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<laugh> ... the usual Wayne and Barry tag team is off on their usual crusade ... read the words Wayne. I'm neither a royalist or an apologist for the wealthy and privililedged ... all I've done is mentioned the facts and the reality as I see it ... whilst I understand some opinions are worth more than other's in Wayne's World, do give the board a holiday from being such a tedious ****. <cheers>
 
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FosseFilberto said:
<laugh> ... the usual Wayne and Barry tag team is off on their usual crusade ... read the words Wayne. I'm neither a royalist or an apologist for the wealthy and privililedged ... all I've done is mentioned the facts and the reality as I see it ... whilst I understand some opinions are worth more than other's in Wayne's World, do give the board a holiday from being such a tedious ****. <cheers>
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Straight into your usual brand of **** ad hominem I see.

Your original post came across as apologist nonsense. You ignored the fact that these young women he was being ‘served up’ weren’t prostitutes, they were coerced and trafficked teenagers, and he must have known this, and kept coming back for more, even after the orchestrator had done time for it (a ridiculously short sentence made sweet for him by the US establishment btw).
 
Stan said:
You've, astonishingly, said that it's pretty normal for people in his position. It's not normal for anyone to exploit young girls.

Yes, I know you have daughters.
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No Barry ... I said that such arrangements happened... do you think parties at the Playboy Mansion were to play follow the leader <doh> ...

Your snidey little insinuations are typical of your character tbf ... not sure I should expect much else by now.
 
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FosseFilberto said:
<laugh> ... the usual Wayne and Barry tag team is off on their usual crusade ... read the words Wayne. I'm neither a royalist or an apologist for the wealthy and privililedged ... all I've done is mentioned the facts and the reality as I see it ... whilst I understand some opinions are worth more than other's in Wayne's World, do give the board a holiday from being such a tedious ****. <cheers>
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It's not just Tobes and myself who have clocked that your opinion on this subject is very ****ing weird. Your ... and <laugh> essays won't change the fact that multiple people have commented on the fact that you think Andrew just did what rich folk do.
 
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