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So what do we think lads, if this had been done by say a bunch of Asian men who lets say are Muslims, people would still be defending the pervy ****s?

The legalities ought to be the same ...

... but the cynic in me suspects that the media circus and top advisers supporting the complainant would be of a lot different make-up if the target at stake was the prospect of compensation from a Bradford cabby.
 
My problem in all this is that she gets off scotch free...she wasn't walking home from work through the park and got raped...she was in an environment she ****in knew about...she was milking the positives of it be it glamour, potential wealth...let's call it networking

Even a tramp stealing from Primark gets put on some kind of programme

I'm not sympathising with her like I would for that poor woman minding her own getting raped

She was in that circle....it will have been a sexual hubub...plenty innuendo....why didn't she open the front door and go home? Why didn't she just **** off and work in McDonald's for the summer?

Personally I think it's another female milking her youth, prowess and beauty and she got stung

None of this has defended Andy...bit she's not getting off for nothing in the not606 court, im afraid

This ain’t a good look geezer
 
I see what Spurly is saying, a bunch of 17 year old girls get invited to an upper crust party with Epstein, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump et all in attendance and it doesn't ring alarm bells?
I would have walked in, seen that the only women there were under 18 and the only men were over 50 and been like, "umm...yeah **** this".
Especially when they get invited to their private rooms etc.
I mean who knows, there may have been coersion of the worst kind, blackmail etc, I dont know the whole story, but still, you have to question what some of these girls were doing putting themselves in this situation.
 
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I see what Spurly is saying, a bunch of 17 year old girls get invited to an upper crust party with Epstein, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump et all in attendance and it doesn't ring alarm bells?
I would have walked in, seen that the only women there were under 18 and the only men were over 50 and been like, "umm...yeah **** this".
Especially when they get invited to their private rooms etc.
I mean who knows, there may have been coersion of the worst kind, blackmail etc, I dont know the whole story, but still, you have to question what some of these girls were doing putting themselves in this situation.

That's like asking why a 26 year old female, whose name was Tra My, got into the back of a lorry with 38 other Vietnamese people, you could argue surely she must know better at that age, but she was trafficked and it led to her death. Yes, she saw the other people, but rather than question it, the numbers made her feel safe.The powerful who coerse the weak as their puppets for a candy treat or the dream of a better life. It's not until you reach maturity you look back and realise you was abused or in Tra's case dead.
 
That's like asking why a 26 year old female, whose name was Tra My, got into the back of a lorry with 38 other Vietnamese people, you could argue surely she must know better at that age, but she was trafficked and it led to her death. Yes, she saw the other people, but rather than question it, the numbers made her feel safe.The powerful who coerse the weak as their puppets for a candy treat or the dream of a better life. It's not until you reach maturity you look back and realise you was abused or in Tra's case dead.

Personally I think Tra My knew the risks...her desperation led to her actions. Her only way out...kind of cornered...a choice that will dictate her future and the future of her kids if they were with her or indeed if she had any

Very bad example to compare her situation to that of Epstein's victim who used to enjoy partying on his private Island...flying about on his private Jet prolly thinking 'shes made it'...them looks are paying off. She was dancing with the Devil because she wanted to.

Still...none of that is saying Andy isn't a Nonce
 
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Personally I think Tra My knew the risks...her desperation led to her actions. Her only way out...kind of cornered...a choice that will dictate her future and the future of her kids if they were with her or indeed if she had any

Very bad example to compare her situation to that of Epstein's victim who used to enjoy partying on his private Island...flying about on his private Jet prolly thinking 'shes made it'...them looks are paying off. She was dancing with the Devil because she wanted to.

Still...none of that is saying Andy isn't a Nonce

If he's not a nonce he will have no problem in going to the states then. It's taken him long enough, he clearly is a valuable witness being so close to Epstein, he had to take a walk in the park to do the 'honourable' thing!!! Epstein is now dead, how convenient.

Andrew has even had to step back from duties, but he's got nothing to hide, yeah right mate, I believe him guv. <doh>
 
Your accusation that it is 'people like me' that 'enable predators like Epstein' is both disgusting and reprehensible...not to mention ignorant. You don't know me.

That you do it from the anonymity of a sock account is not surprising and reflects the true character behind the sock ... and I am not convinced that it's HIAG btw... but it is someone with a personal grudge, no doubt.

In contrast, it is people like me who do not convict people merely on press speculation but wait for firm evidence of a crime committed. In doing so we ask questions about things that need such questions asking to establish full facts / the truth.

All that I have done on this thread is pointed out that a photo of Andrew with the girl proves only that they were at the same event. It does not prove intimacy.

I also wondered why the girl carried on going to more events if the first encounter happened as she says - when surely human nature is to avoid a repeat of bad experiences? That seems a legitimate question to me?

Others have been less generous about the girls 'motives' for making these accusations, yet you have remained silent, instead singling me out for your abhorrent accusations - I wonder why? ... and where has the pidgin English suddenly gone?

That the Super mod has endorsed your post is a damning indictment of his suitability for such a role and further proof, if it were needed, of his double standards in regards to personal attacks on this forum.

Finally, 'people like me' are so concerned about the possibility of predators that we give up having a drink for every party that teenage daughters have ever attended in order to be there to drive them and their friends home, usually in the early hours of the morning. No marttyr. Merely whatt I see as being the responsibilties of being a dad. <cheers>
I agree that comment 'people like you enable predators to get away with it' is truly disgusting and I notice your usual followers have jumped on the back of it with their likes.

Practically any other poster on this site would have been protected and looked out for after receiving a comment like that, but with you it does seem like it's fair game. We'll see further down the line how the same folk take such comments directed at them.
 
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If he's not a nonce he will have no problem in going to the states then. It's taken him long enough, he clearly is a valuable witness being so close to Epstein, he had to take a walk in the park to do the 'honourable' thing!!! Epstein is now dead, how convenient.

Andrew has even had to step back from duties, but he's got nothing to hide, yeah right mate, I believe him guv. <doh>

Who said anything about him not being guilty?

Not me
 
Who said anything about him not being guilty?

Not me

Tell yer mate, you wouldn't be thinking the way you were if it was your 17 year old daughter, you'd be wanting to cut off the fookers balls with a blunt knife.
 
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I agree that comment 'people like you enable predators to get away with it' is truly disgusting and I notice your usual followers have jumped on the back of it with their likes.

Practically any other poster on this site would have been protected and looked out for after receiving a comment like that, but with you it does seem like it's fair game. We'll see further down the line how the same folk take such comments directed at them.

Mate I think Fosse is the biggest ****ing idiot on this site (especially now HIAG has ****ed off), and that still doesn't mean I am willing to bypass due process.
Dont like Andrew either, or any of the Royal Family, but we need due process, not kangaroo social media courts made up of double digit IQ wielding ****heads.
 
Dont like Andrew either, or any of the Royal Family, but we need due process, not kangaroo social media courts made up of double digit IQ wielding ****heads.

Anyone know yet mate when he's flying out to the states, or has he gone all climate change green now, and saving the planet by not flying <whistle>
 
Mate I think Fosse is the biggest ****ing idiot on this site (especially now HIAG has ****ed off), and that still doesn't mean I am willing to bypass due process.
Dont like Andrew either, or any of the Royal Family, but we need due process, not kangaroo social media courts made up of double digit IQ wielding ****heads.
I understood loud and clear the '****ing idiot' comment about Fosse. That's fair enough, we all have our own posters who we view as decent people or ****ing idiots.

I'm unsure as to whether you're supporting him on here or not about that comment directed at him? <laugh>
 
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Trump has denied knowing Prince Andrew.
Of course that means that there's loads of pictures of them together going back decades.
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Nice one there with Epstein in the background and Ghislaine Maxwell on the right.
Time to **** off to the Middle East for a bit, Andrew. Wouldn't want you getting Epsteined, eh?
 
I could be wrong but that looks like Donald Trump is stood with his wife?
 
17 year old girls go to party where the men are excedeingly rich, and people are wondering why she went? Does it have to be spelled out in big letters?
My personal opinion is, if she was an unwilling under-aged sex-slave to some of the richest and most powerful men, she would've been buried in a ditch somewhere, never to be found, not living in Australia.
 
Trumps got a worse memory than Andrew <laugh>

Maybe he thought he was down at pizza hut when that pic was taken <whistle>
I reckon Trump just wants **** all to do with them horrible ****ers. I'd probably deny all knowledge too about being at the same parties <laugh>
 
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I reckon Trump just wants **** all to do with them horrible ****ers. I'd probably deny all knowledge too about being at the same parties <laugh>

i thought that as soon has I heard Trumps comment, he wanted to kill the questions dead, so it was easier for him to say he didn't know him. I doubt any journo had the guts to challenge that in a press conference, well not without being dragged out by the ear by Trumps security.
 
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