Premier League Thread

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I was wondering about this the other day. Nowadays, it is possible to watch 99% of all top flight games in Europe live via a stream, because they are all broadcast live somewhere in the world by Sky, BT, BeIn, NBC, or Setanta. What we don't know is the viewing figures of the various games via streams. If it was possible to estimate the numbers watching, say, Saints playing Leicester at 3pm on Saturday via streams, it might go some way to showing whether showing that game live in the UK on TV would have had any effect on what was a sell out match. I've no idea how you would go about gathering data like that without intruding on people's privacy but it would be an interesting exercise.

I'm a self confessed stream tart these days.

It does not affect my (infrequent) attendance at Saints or (no laughing) Wimborne Town. These are governed by time and money restraints. For the first time in ages I qualified for a Man U ticket this time round, got almost to checkout on the site and just couldn't click to buy as I really couldn't justify it to myself and family.

I look for cheap (league cup early rounds then) options at Saints or get bought a ticket as birthday/xmas pressies. Some no doubt feel it shows a lack of commitment or passion for Saints but like many others I now have other priorities. The streams are so easily available now I think any impact on attendances has already happened. Current and future attendances will be affected only by the prices charged, in the Prem anyway. Local teams (yay go Wimborne Town!) are fighting a losing battle in most cases against the many alternative entertainments on offer.
 
In the past people had a favourite big side, but as they could never see them on TV, they watched local clubs if they wanted live football. There was coverage of a couple of games on MOTD and that was it. Now people think they are real United, City etc supporters because they follow them on TV. However, it isn't simple...the world has changed...you can't put the genie back in the bottle. However, it would be a shame to lose our vibrant lower league and nonleague football.
 
I'm not sure I understand you Imp. My point was that whilst we don't know how many people are using streams for PL games, we do know the impact of them doing so because the attendances are what they are today with those streams in use.

Whilst this is a factor I think you underestimate just how many people do not watch streams. May seem alien to us on forums all the time, used to frequenting the internet all hours of the day but some people buy Sky to watch football and others do not know about streaming or just will not suffer that quality.

Before streams there was foreign satellite. I had a satellite box to watch a range of 3pm kick offs 12 years ago.

As for attendances dying in the lower leagues, people always supported the "glory boys". The big clubs were big clubs before the PL was formed so I'm not sure that I subscribe to your view that the PL has damaged attendances and the associated benefits to towns.

I think you are a little blinded here. Yes people always supported the 'glory boys' but they also went to their local game and then checked results in the pub across the road then went on their way or continued the 'matchday experience'. I used to have a season ticket at Lincoln with 2 Liverpool 'fans', a 'Spurs fan' BUT 2 Lincoln fans. Only the 2 Lincoln fans go still!!!

The Pl initially boosted football on the whole as football became even more popular and fashionable than it was before. There were also more women and children going boosted by family deals and 'kids for a quid' which were never around pre 90s football (at least not in Lincoln.)

The fact is that the pub-meal-match-pub-nightlife experience that you fondly recollect would cost you best part of £200 wherever you live these days, whoever you support and there aren't too many folk that splash that cash every weekend. In fact, attendances across all divisions have increased by 60% since the formation of the PL. Obviously certain clubs are just getting things wrong all on their own.

Aaaargh Cost of living crisis. Sound like Milliband and Balls here. When I was doing the matchday experience in the nineties it would cost a good part of £100 for home games. Tickets, Beers over 14 hours, a couple of meals...............We did it every week. The economy makes most money off that 18 to 30 demographic that have much more disposable income and party non stop. It hasn't gotten any more expensive in proportion to wages. Its called inflation. £100 20 years ago is £200 today. 18 - 30 year olds do not go to local football clubs anymore, not in the numbers they used to and the older fans (over 30s) go to the match, maybe a pint or 2 and home. They either have families to get back to or aren't the party animal anymore or all their friends don't go anymore as they are one of the former 2.

So you can't really moan about the cost of the day. It has always cost that, just that inflation makes things more expensive.

If anything I would say it is cheaper in terms of inflation.

A Lincoln comparison from 20 years ago to today
Ticket was £8 and now is £18
Beer was £1.80 and now is £3.30
Meal was £5 and now is £7 (pub type meals)
Taxi was £3 and now is £5
Av wages were £14k and now is £25k
 
"West Ham have been the most consistent team in the Premier League and it wasn't by accident."

Excuse me Roberto. :mad:
 
Enjoyed that...thanks for posting. Found the reforming system used in the physio department interesting...it should help persistent injuries that often follow recovery from a major injury. How often do you see someone return after injury just to pull a hamstring in their first match? It is easy to develop a twist to your body or limbs that need correcting.
 
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