Off Topic Politics Thread

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I think that this is a watershed moment for Trump. I do not think he will defeat Iran and I do feel this will be a bigger disaster than Iraq. He has alienated America's allies who are now quite happy to see him humiliated. I just feel that Europe has taken the view that Trump has givn himsekf enough rope to hang himself.

The biggest problem will be when the Chinese convince the oil producing nations to trade in yen. This will be more crushing for Trump than any military reverse. I would not mind betting that Trump will no longer be president in 12 months time. No one could have predicted things would go this bad. Even Vance seems to be distancing himself from Trump.

I think in five years time we will have seen enough to see China as the No. 1 super-power. I am not sure the US can recover from Trump.
 
I think potholes are as much of a concern as speeding two new tyres in three years due to potholes. Still waiting for the compo for the second one which had previously been reported
 
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Confirmed on several news platforms including the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg4g66r3z40o from where this was extracted.

"Kent, a long-time supporter of Trump's who unsuccessfully ran for Congress twice, was narrowly confirmed to his post in July last year, with many Democrats criticising his links to extremist groups including members of the Proud Boys.
In the confirmation hearing, Kent also refused to back away from claims that federal agents had fomented the January 6 riots at the US Capitol or that Trump had won the 2020 election."

Trump will be calling for his head. Dissing the tangerine turd not a good career move
 
From the BBC live blog:

"I read his statement," says Trump. "I always thought he was a nice guy but I always thought he was weak on security, very weak on security."

He continues: "I didn't know him well ... But when I read his statement I realised that it's a good thing that he's out, because he said Iran was not a threat.

"Iran was a threat, every country realised what a threat Iran was."
 
It’s your opinion that the government is incompetent, but the evidence is that they are doing a great job of resisting being dragged into another catastrophic war which will make everyone in this country worse off.
I haven’t been Starmer’s biggest fan but he is playing a blinder as regards Trump’s lunacy.
When you look at the alternative choices, who would you rather have in charge here? Kemi Badenoch makes herself look more ridiculous every time she opens her mouth, and Farage is just a disgraceful opportunist who has no policies whatsoever apart from anti-immigration. His desire to create another refugee crisis seems a little paradoxical in the light of that.
And thank you for assistance in moderating this board, but we’ll talk about whatever we like here.
I hope you remember this when Corbyn's relationship to terrorism get's mentioned again. I distinctly remember you saying how fed up with it you were the last time it was mentioned. No mention of we can talk about what we want that time.
Loading (where is he and Badger?) regularly moaned about how often I posted about trans issues. Don't remember you defending my right to post whatever I liked then. I guess it's really about whether you agree with the subject or not.

If the posts about Trump where just political then their number would be more sensible but because they (the posts) include all sorts of regular trivial fluff, the more important stuff becomes just part of a Trump obsession. It has taken over the politics thread and while, as you say, you can talk about whatever you like, I can complain about whatever I like too.

As for Starmer and his government. His performance is not just about his stance on this current war. He has been appalling in many aspects which I can list for those with blind loyalty. Whether Badenoch or Farage would be better or worse isn't the point because we don't know. What we do know is that it's Starmer's labour government that is making this country a trainwreck and it's them we are burdened with.
 
I hope you remember this when Corbyn's relationship to terrorism get's mentioned again. I distinctly remember you saying how fed up with it you were the last time it was mentioned. No mention of we can talk about what we want that time.
Loading (where is he and Badger?) regularly moaned about how often I posted about trans issues. Don't remember you defending my right to post whatever I liked then. I guess it's really about whether you agree with the subject or not.

If the posts about Trump where just political then their number would be more sensible but because they (the posts) include all sorts of regular trivial fluff, the more important stuff becomes just part of a Trump obsession. It has taken over the politics thread and while, as you say, you can talk about whatever you like, I can complain about whatever I like too.

As for Starmer and his government. His performance is not just about his stance on this current war. He has been appalling in many aspects which I can list for those with blind loyalty. Whether Badenoch or Farage would be better or worse isn't the point because we don't know. What we do know is that it's Starmer's labour government that is making this country a trainwreck and it's them we are burdened with.
I’m not going to go back over Corbyn’s era, life’s too short. The amount of posts about Trump are down to him currently being the most powerful man in the world, whose power seems to have no limit, and whose madness puts no limits on the ruin he can bring to the world.

Complaining about Starmer’s stance on anything apart from the Iran war is irrelevant right now, because that’s what is happening right now. You have already forgotten that your people ruined this country for 14 years before Labour came back, and while I have little faith in Starmer’s leadership, at last he isn’t licking Trump’s or Putin’s arse.
 
Yep, speeding and parking fines etc are a form of indirect taxation on motorists. Don’t expect it to stop anytime soon, in fact there’s more chance of Trump winning a Nobel Peace Prize, than there is of that happening.
I nearly got busted for DIC on my bike in The Hague back in the day. The police were amused when they found I was English, told me I was riding my bike like a Dutchman.
 
It's being reported across media that Farage has posted Cameo videos showing support for neo-Nazi event and far-right slogans. They include videos in which he repeats a motto associated with the UK far right, references antisemitic conspiracy theories and makes misogynistic remarks about left wing politicians – including a comment about the US congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s breasts.

Makes a change from the tangerine turd.
 
Hopefully Farage will get some of the blow back when Trump gets ousted or locked up.

Interesting to see that Rachel Reeves has been in favour of close ties with Europe and that such meaaures will boost the economy by 1 %. Just wondered what kind of margin a rejoin campaign would win by. I don't even think it would be close.

Shame Osvaldorama is not around to be so chippy !
 
Came across Edmund Burke whilst looking for something else. He is known as a founder of modern conservatism, he supported the American Revolution, opposed the French Revolution, and championed duty-driven representation over mere delegation. He argued in his 1774 Speech to the Electors of Bristol that an MP should act as a representative exercising independent judgment for the national good, rather than a delegate bound by local constituents' wishes. Burke stated that a representative owes their constituents their matured judgment, not just obedience to immediate opinions, and should serve the general interest of the whole. Much I agree with there, it wouldn't do just to follow the shouty person in the street.

Some quotes:-

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

“Rudeness is the weak man’s imitation of strength.” To whom might that apply to? This is a multiple answer question.

“Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”

“Our patience will achieve more than our force.”

There's loads here. https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/17142.Edmund_Burke#
 
It's being reported across media that Farage has posted Cameo videos showing support for neo-Nazi event and far-right slogans. They include videos in which he repeats a motto associated with the UK far right, references antisemitic conspiracy theories and makes misogynistic remarks about left wing politicians – including a comment about the US congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s breasts.

Makes a change from the tangerine turd.
 
I’m not going to go back over Corbyn’s era, life’s too short. The amount of posts about Trump are down to him currently being the most powerful man in the world, whose power seems to have no limit, and whose madness puts no limits on the ruin he can bring to the world.

Complaining about Starmer’s stance on anything apart from the Iran war is irrelevant right now, because that’s what is happening right now. You have already forgotten that your people ruined this country for 14 years before Labour came back, and while I have little faith in Starmer’s leadership, at last he isn’t licking Trump’s or Putin’s arse.
Not surprised you don't want to go back over the Corbyn era because, yet again, it exposes your double standards.

My people? I have said multiple times on here that I have never voted Tory in my life. Trying to stick that label on me is just to suit your agenda.
I have also said many times that I am disillusioned with all politicians. I don't hang my hat on any political party and I probably won't vote at the next GE, I might vote tactically though just to make sure this current mob are booted into touch. You don't have to be a Conservative to see the obvious.
And if that encourages some to say, in that case you're not entitled to comment, well too bad. If some who don't actually live in this country feel entitled to comment then I certainly am.

Anyway, I've made my feelings known about how this thread is clogged up with all things Trump, relevent or not. I would have left it there if I didn't have to explain myself to at least three separate posters who couldn't be bothered to read what had been posted before.
 
Not surprised you don't want to go back over the Corbyn era because, yet again, it exposes your double standards.

My people? I have said multiple times on here that I have never voted Tory in my life. Trying to stick that label on me is just to suit your agenda.
I have also said many times that I am disillusioned with all politicians. I don't hang my hat on any political party and I probably won't vote at the next GE, I might vote tactically though just to make sure this current mob are booted into touch. You don't have to be a Conservative to see the obvious.
And if that encourages some to say, in that case you're not entitled to comment, well too bad. If some who don't actually live in this country feel entitled to comment then I certainly am.

Anyway, I've made my feelings known about how this thread is clogged up with all things Trump, relevent or not. I would have left it there if I didn't have to explain myself to at least three separate posters who couldn't be bothered to read what had been posted before.
I like several others on here don't live in the country and feel totally entitled to comment on topics in and other forums also vote in elections. Your comment gives me a nudge to promote overseas voter registration more so since the removal of the fifteen year time limit allowing all British citizens previously resident to register to vote.
The government estimated that around 3.5 million British nationals living overseas would be eligible to register to vote.
The total number of overseas voters registered for the 2024 general election was 191,338.
There's a huge need to promote registration, it's easy to do online and there's a number of proposals to make the voting procedure more straightforward including voting at embassies and consulates, allowing overseas voters to print their own ballots and return them and telephone or online voting.
Plenty of info on these sites to use and/or pass on.