It is ashame that Osvalorama is no longer posting here as i wonder what he would have made of Trump today. Absolutely shocking. The petulent comments about the Nobel Peace Prize were as staggering as they were ignorant.
Or a Gaslighter for a President?Starmer has now been publicly humiliated by Trump on the Chagos Islands deal. I accept that Trump is unpredictable at the best of times but just the day before he was boasting about his great relationship with Trump. Now he's been completely undermined by him. Such a weak PM.
Possibly, but Starmer has allowed himself to be.Or a Gaslighter for a President?
EDIT: FWIW I do agree with you, but can't help but think he has been stitched up
Yes and no. Trump is purposely trying to stoke the fire in the UK by saying this to distract from what is really a hostile takeover of a sovereign nation. Like a child, he can't get his own way, he throws all his toys out of his pram.Possibly, but Starmer has allowed himself to be.
There are areas where you could call him weak, but this isn't one. Every major World leader is having the same problems with that tosser, Starmer has arguably done a great job to get this far before its gone south.Starmer has now been publicly humiliated by Trump on the Chagos Islands deal. I accept that Trump is unpredictable at the best of times but just the day before he was boasting about his great relationship with Trump. Now he's been completely undermined by him. Such a weak PM.
Humiliated howso? Any excuse for a bit of Starmer bashing, it's Trump being a gobshite talking bollocks contradicting himself and looking the twat that he is. He'd previously endorsed the deal.Starmer has now been publicly humiliated by Trump on the Chagos Islands deal. I accept that Trump is unpredictable at the best of times but just the day before he was boasting about his great relationship with Trump. Now he's been completely undermined by him. Such a weak PM.
Bullshit. Less than a year ago Trump agreed that we had no choice over the Chagos deal.Starmer has now been publicly humiliated by Trump on the Chagos Islands deal. I accept that Trump is unpredictable at the best of times but just the day before he was boasting about his great relationship with Trump. Now he's been completely undermined by him. Such a weak PM.
Cheap, extremely poor attempt at political point scoring by Badenoch, Farage and Tom.I wanted to scream as I read today's news. Trump suddenly yells that a deal he supported is now an act of madness on the part of the UK. It's so clearly a load of horseshit but the leader of the the opposition jumps on the bandwagon. Her defence spokesperson urges the government to break the deal on the island and 'spend the money on defence.' It's £101m a year allegedly. Enough for a fully armed landrover and a couple of packets of Wagon Wheels, hardly likely to fill the gap we clearly must fill. But let's not let the opportunity for an anti Starmer sound bite go begging.
As I understand it Mauritius is a sovereign country and owns the islands in question. We might get into a debate about how countries 'own' bits of land, but it didn't stop the UK fighting a war to protect its ownership of a islands populated by sheep and penguins in 1983. Move on. So if Mauritius says to its formal colonial power that it wants to have its islands back they have every right to. If the UK and US want to keep a base there they should pay for it. Trump is a deranged lunatic who says whatever he thinks sounds good. I was just coming to the conclusion that Badenoch was capable of rational thought and going beyond party politics. I note that Priti Patel supported Starmer's stance on Greenland and I thought just for a moment sense had broken out at Westminster. But today the Tories have again taken up the absurd call that the islands shouldn't have been 'given away'. Surely they weren't ours to give. If Wales were granted independence from England, but the English insisted on keeping Anglesey for defence purposes the Welsh would tell them to do one, but maybe agree to lease them RAF Valley. As I see it, this analogy (for all its warts) is where we are. The Uk should collectively tell Trump he's got it wrong We don't need the leader of the Conservative party looking for a chance to make a cheap political point.
Possibly, but Starmer has allowed himself to be.
This is a bit misleading. The islands were never "owned" by Mauritius........ever! They were uninhabited until the Dutch landed there and then passed to French ownership then to us when we defeated Napolean in a bundle with Mauritius. It was us that then separated them from the bundle and gave Mauritius independence.I wanted to scream as I read today's news. Trump suddenly yells that a deal he supported is now an act of madness on the part of the UK. It's so clearly a load of horseshit but the leader of the the opposition jumps on the bandwagon. Her defence spokesperson urges the government to break the deal on the island and 'spend the money on defence.' It's £101m a year allegedly. Enough for a fully armed landrover and a couple of packets of Wagon Wheels, hardly likely to fill the gap we clearly must fill. But let's not let the opportunity for an anti Starmer sound bite go begging.
As I understand it Mauritius is a sovereign country and owns the islands in question. We might get into a debate about how countries 'own' bits of land, but it didn't stop the UK fighting a war to protect its ownership of a islands populated by sheep and penguins in 1983. Move on. So if Mauritius says to its formal colonial power that it wants to have its islands back they have every right to. If the UK and US want to keep a base there they should pay for it. Trump is a deranged lunatic who says whatever he thinks sounds good. I was just coming to the conclusion that Badenoch was capable of rational thought and going beyond party politics. I note that Priti Patel supported Starmer's stance on Greenland and I thought just for a moment sense had broken out at Westminster. But today the Tories have again taken up the absurd call that the islands shouldn't have been 'given away'. Surely they weren't ours to give. If Wales were granted independence from England, but the English insisted on keeping Anglesey for defence purposes the Welsh would tell them to do one, but maybe agree to lease them RAF Valley. As I see it, this analogy (for all its warts) is where we are. The Uk should collectively tell Trump he's got it wrong We don't need the leader of the Conservative party looking for a chance to make a cheap political point.