Off Topic Politics Thread

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Not at all , honestly .

Just expressing my personal opinion .

The Bronze and others are perfectly entitled to their opinion and I respect that .
We could extend the debate and suggest places that could do with an uplifting name. Fareham, a boring two-syllable name for a place on the south coast that has a sea inlet. When the tide is out, we can see "Muddy Waters!"
 
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I believe some still exist. It's quite extraordinary. Appalling man, and yet spectacularly only the second worst of his siblings.
The funniest thing with Your party is the 2 factions in this anti-capitalist setup arguing about the almighty $$$

My money, no its my money, no its mine........my preciousses
 
Your party or the tits wizard. It's not exactly a compelling argument to vote hard left.

That's not how its viewed in left leaning sub reddits or other platforms though! Lots of comments of moaning about the Greens being described as "radical" or "hard" left. I don't think the people that would vote for actual "left" care about the "tits" bit and instead of criticising Corbyn/Sultana they are much more on a "if only they could get this together" kind of mindset rather than seeing red flags! But then this section of the vocal voterbase openly call Starmer right wing and Streting even more right wing!
 
That's not how its viewed in left leaning sub reddits or other platforms though! Lots of comments of moaning about the Greens being described as "radical" or "hard" left. I don't think the people that would vote for actual "left" care about the "tits" bit and instead of criticising Corbyn/Sultana they are much more on a "if only they could get this together" kind of mindset rather than seeing red flags! But then this section of the vocal voterbase openly call Starmer right wing and Streting even more right wing!

I think it's a pity that there is no hard left party, not because I want one in power but because there should be a comprehensive choice for people where to cast their votes. As it is at the moment, anyone with harder left views has to look to the nutjobs in the Green Party to represent them. In my view the Greens should have stayed as an environmental pressure group and the Lib Dems should just pack it in.
Extreme parties tend to keep the centre left/right on their toes enough to force changes they wouldn't normally make, as we see now with Reform. The only problem is that although the general public don't want extreme parties in power, in times of unrest, they will turn to them if they feel ignored. Again, as we see now with Reform.
If Reform get voted in at the next GE the blame will lie fair and square with both the centre left/right parties. The government for not listening to and acting on public concerns, and the opposition for not giving the voters an attractive alternative.

Also, whenever a Conservative MP defects to Reform it is usually met with jeers aimed at the failing Tory Party, but I think to the Farage haters it should be viewed with concern.
It's pretty clear that there will be a new government after the next GE but despite Reform's current popularity what may stop them is an image of a dysfunctional group of chancers. But every defection weakens the (relatively) moderate Tories, gives strength to the more extreme Reform and offers them an even better chance of success at the next GE. Whatever you think of the last government, to the normally Tory voting electorate, Reform will appeal to them more with familiar faces and credible politicians (credible compared to the group of chancers mentioned above).