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It's alledged Scots are ****ting in Trump's golf course holes and extra security are being deployed. Other sources are poopooing the allegations whilst some twaXters are offering funding for high fibre diets. .
 
Seeing Labour and Lib Dem’s minimising the grooming gangs in the House of Commons today was a new low point in British politics.

What you are doing here is pretty much the same thing.


Minimising the threat, minimising the danger, minimising the UK’s decline as it doesn’t suit your agenda.

It’s not normal to need barriers. It’s not normal to need armed police at Christmas markets. These are signs that something is going tragically wrong in the country.

What is happening here is what many had suspected and were afraid of. By refusing to have a national inquiry into how it was allowed to continue for years, the government hid the facts of this scandal from the public for political reasons. Now, the so called local inquiries are being diluted into a "flexible approach" with money available to local authorities to investigate organised child rape in their area should they wish to. The pitfalls of this approach are obvious because some of those involved in the scandal were employed by the councils in question.
Jess Phillips (the junior minister for safeguarding and violence against women and girls, what a joke that is) is a disgrace. She and her government have done their utmost to stop a national inquiry, and now dilute the local ones. She squeezed in her statement to the house just before it closed for the Easter recess with few MPs in attendance. She is an awful, gutless and dishonest politician.

Maybe this has something to do with it.
Take the big three areas: Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford. Official reports suggest these areas are home to more than 2,500 child victims collectively (although the real number is likely to be far higher due to unreported cases or those identified after the most recent reports).
Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford are all held by Labour, with majority votes of 2,345, 10,789 and 8,456, respectively.

Other Labour seats rocked by grooming gang scandals include:
Keighley: Labour majority of 6,789 votes.Derby: Labour majority of 9,234 votes.Halifax: Labour majority of 7,890 votes.Newcastle: Labour majority of 16,234 votes.Bradford: Labour majority of 13,567 votes.Sheffield: Labour majority of 14,789 votes.Burnley: Labour majority of 5,678 votes.Blackburn: Labour majority of 12,345 votes.Luton: Labour majority of 9,876 votes.Leeds: Labour majority of 15,432 votes.Dewsbury: Labour majority of 6,543 votes.Nottingham: Labour majority of 13,210 votes.Cardiff: Labour majority of 10,987 votes.Birmingham: Labour majority of 18,654 votes.Manchester: Labour majority of 20,123 votes.Leicester: Labour majority of 14,567 votes.Bolton: Labour majority of 7,890 votes.Stockport: Labour majority of 9,432 votes.St Helens: Labour majority of 11,678 votes.Redditch: Labour majority of 4,321 votes.Southend West and Leigh: Labour majority of 3,210 votes.Ipswich: Labour majority of 5,678 votes.Bristol: Labour majority of 12,789 votes


But closer to home, there are some on here who should be having a hard look at themselves. They too have played it down as "they've already had an inquiry", and "it was covered in the Casey report" or "it's driven by racism" by the usual suspect. Why those posters were so adamant that a national inquiry wasn't necessary, only they will know, but why would anyone be so vocal in their objections to fully investigate something so grotesque and punish those who were complicit?

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What is happening here is what many had suspected and were afraid of. By refusing to have a national inquiry into how it was allowed to continue for years, the government hid the facts of this scandal from the public for political reasons. Now, the so called local inquiries are being diluted into a "flexible approach" with money available to local authorities to investigate organised child rape in their area should they wish to. The pitfalls of this approach are obvious because some of those involved in the scandal were employed by the councils in question.
Jess Phillips (the junior minister for safeguarding and violence against women and girls, what a joke that is) is a disgrace. She and her government have done their utmost to stop a national inquiry, and now dilute the local ones. She squeezed in her statement to the house just before it closed for the Easter recess with few MPs in attendance. She is an awful, gutless and dishonest politician.

Maybe this has something to do with it.
Take the big three areas: Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford. Official reports suggest these areas are home to more than 2,500 child victims collectively (although the real number is likely to be far higher due to unreported cases or those identified after the most recent reports).
Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford are all held by Labour, with majority votes of 2,345, 10,789 and 8,456, respectively.

Other Labour seats rocked by grooming gang scandals include:
Keighley: Labour majority of 6,789 votes.Derby: Labour majority of 9,234 votes.Halifax: Labour majority of 7,890 votes.Newcastle: Labour majority of 16,234 votes.Bradford: Labour majority of 13,567 votes.Sheffield: Labour majority of 14,789 votes.Burnley: Labour majority of 5,678 votes.Blackburn: Labour majority of 12,345 votes.Luton: Labour majority of 9,876 votes.Leeds: Labour majority of 15,432 votes.Dewsbury: Labour majority of 6,543 votes.Nottingham: Labour majority of 13,210 votes.Cardiff: Labour majority of 10,987 votes.Birmingham: Labour majority of 18,654 votes.Manchester: Labour majority of 20,123 votes.Leicester: Labour majority of 14,567 votes.Bolton: Labour majority of 7,890 votes.Stockport: Labour majority of 9,432 votes.St Helens: Labour majority of 11,678 votes.Redditch: Labour majority of 4,321 votes.Southend West and Leigh: Labour majority of 3,210 votes.Ipswich: Labour majority of 5,678 votes.Bristol: Labour majority of 12,789 votes


But closer to home, there are some on here who should be having a hard look at themselves. They too have played it down as "they've already had an inquiry", and "it was covered in the Casey report" or "it's driven by racism" by the usual suspect. Why those posters were so adamant that a national inquiry wasn't necessary, only they will know, but why would anyone be so vocal in their objections to fully investigate something so grotesque and punish those who were complicit?

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In 2014 Theresa May ordered a national enquiry. Eight years later, in 2022, that enquiry was completed. Since 2010, there have been countless local enquiries. The Conservatives were happy there had been enough enquiries until they found themselves in opposition and Lord Musk kicked off his nonsense. Labour are attempting to enact the recommendations of the 2022 report - and have been clear that another national enquiry will slow this down. What do you want here?

There is now a dedicated grooming gang taskforce which has arrested hundreds of people since 2024.

Seven of the Rotherham group are now serving 106 years in prison.

What exactly would another 8 year delay add? When did anybody ever want more national reviews? We just finished one. What is it about that review that isn’t good enough?
 
China have unsurprisingly retaliated to Trump's latest tariffs. At this rate the stupid **** is going to single handedly cause a global recession.

The bonds market in US has started to fall allegedly due Chinese with drawing investment . Allegedly 45 billion dollars invested by China in US.

Not looking good for the dollar either abd EU tariffs to follow.

Liberation Day has been all about Trump shooting America in the foot. Wont be majing America great again by any means ..
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