Off Topic Politics Thread

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Osvaldorama said:
Seeing Labour and Lib Dem’s minimising the grooming gangs in the House of Commons today was a new low point in British politics.

What you are doing here is pretty much the same thing.

Minimising the threat, minimising the danger, minimising the UK’s decline as it doesn’t suit your agenda.

It’s not normal to need barriers. It’s not normal to need armed police at Christmas markets. These are signs that something is going tragically wrong in the country.
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“Minimising the threat as doesn’t fit my agenda”

I have no agenda, unlike you. I am not minimising anything as there is no threat. London is not falling. The country isn’t falling. You would believe it if you are far down a rabbit hole, which thankfully I am not.

“It’s not normal to need barriers. It’s not normal to need armed police at Christmas markets.”

I have not seen one policeman with a gun at any Christmas market I attended. Nor barriers other than for traffic flow.

This is genuinely all in your little far right mind. You keep spouting extremism on here. We all laugh AT you as you are ridiculous. And stupid.
 
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Mostlymadeofwater said:
Gosh! So you actually believe that this piece of fiction is a psyop? Poor Stephen Graham. Seemed like a good piece of writing, though I thought episode 4 was a bit of a weak ending. I haven't seen anyone saying that this represents all young men, but then I don't spend my time on twitter or follow far right accounts, so we see different things I guess. I didn't see a piece of fiction that told all young men they were evil. I saw something that showed a mentally ill young man whose insecurities had been tormented.

Far right has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with insecurity. These views aren't having problems with immigration - that's just the radicalisation talking. The only reason these links work (same with the 'we are sending all these electric porsches to albania' for example) is simple insecurity or inferiority complex.

Islamic extremism has more to do with foreign policy than immigration, but I'm sure you know that. In the same way that you know that your Southport statement is disingenuous at best.
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Famous Scouse government agent, Stephen “The Tank” Graham?
 
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I find it sad how desperate people are to politicise the grooming gangs situation and weaponise it as an anti-immigration thing. The grooming gangs were Pakistani - and that is an established British community. Yes, without doubt there are cultural issues and bad people are enabled by ghettoised sections of society.
However, what won’t fix it is pushing this ‘Muslim’ grooming gangs’ narrative. One of my best mates is a Muslim from Malaysia. The highest arrest rate of immigrants is Albanians - and they are not Muslims.

What I think we all object to is the dogwhistle rhetoric, the denial of the fact the UK is safer now than it was when most of us were growing up, and the desire to make everything about race. It is and always has been about poverty first and foremost. But if we want to have integrated societies, how about we stop going on and on about the divisions and start finding common ground?
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I don’t care about anyone’s race or background. I care about the malaise seeping into the country where we accept criminal behaviour and refuse to punish UK-born criminals or deport foreign criminals.

Because burying your head in the sand is not the way forward. Addressing the problems and talking about them is the way these things get solved.

Some very good friends of mine that emigrated here from Zimbabwe and started successful businesses are now leaving to head to Dubai.

A combination of;
- Governent taxing everything
- Declining living standards and yes - safety
- General hatred of success in this country

Is making the UK uninvestable. Entrepreneurs are leaving. The exact people that we need here to grow the economy and make the country a better place will no longer come because instead we are pandering to criminals and prioritising them over actual tax paying, hard-working citizens.

The world sees our justice system as a complete joke. The vice president of the United States called out the UK for its two tier policing and locking citizens up for social media posts. And he was correct!

You’re right in your last point. The common ground that we need is for the law to treat everyone equally and not make exceptions for race/religion/gender like they currently are.

That and to create a culture of success in the country again instead of a socialist victim mindset
 
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I find it sad how desperate people are to politicise the grooming gangs situation and weaponise it as an anti-immigration thing. The grooming gangs were Pakistani - and that is an established British community. Yes, without doubt there are cultural issues and bad people are enabled by ghettoised sections of society.
However, what won’t fix it is pushing this ‘Muslim’ grooming gangs’ narrative. One of my best mates is a Muslim from Malaysia. The highest arrest rate of immigrants is Albanians - and they are not Muslims.

What I think we all object to is the dogwhistle rhetoric, the denial of the fact the UK is safer now than it was when most of us were growing up, and the desire to make everything about race. It is and always has been about poverty first and foremost. But if we want to have integrated societies, how about we stop going on and on about the divisions and start finding common ground?
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Agree with your general point but isn't Islam Albania's main religion? Probably related to Ottoman rule?
 
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Osvaldorama said:
I don’t care about anyone’s race or background. I care about the malaise seeping into the country where we accept criminal behaviour and refuse to punish UK-born criminals or deport foreign criminals.

Because burying your head in the sand is not the way forward. Addressing the problems and talking about them is the way these things get solved.

Some very good friends of mine that emigrated here from Zimbabwe and started successful businesses are now leaving to head to Dubai.

A combination of;
- Governent taxing everything
- Declining living standards and yes - safety
- General hatred of success in this country

Is making the UK uninvestable. Entrepreneurs are leaving. The exact people that we need here to grow the economy and make the country a better place will no longer come because instead we are pandering to criminals and prioritising them over actual tax paying, hard-working citizens.

The world sees our justice system as a complete joke. The vice president of the United States called out the UK for its two tier policing and locking citizens up for social media posts. And he was correct!

You’re right in your last point. The common ground that we need is for the law to treat everyone equally and not make exceptions for race/religion/gender like they currently are.

That and to create a culture of success in the country again instead of a socialist victim mindset
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The only one here with a victim mindset is you. Everything is failing, falling apart, a disaster.

You want me to be surprised that economic migrants from Zimbabwe are moving on? That’s what economic migrants do.

And still you don’t actually address anything I say.

1.More white boys like Tate - according to your numbers - than any other race.

2.Pakistanis are an embedded culture.

Two-tier policing as you call it would probably look like more black and asian people ending up in prison - per capita - than white people. Oh… maybe you have a point.

Or is it all about poor people and austerity politics…
 
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The only one here with a victim mindset is you. Everything is failing, falling apart, a disaster.

You want me to be surprised that economic migrants from Zimbabwe are moving on? That’s what economic migrants do.

And still you don’t actually address anything I say.

1.More white boys like Tate - according to your numbers - than any other race.

2.Pakistanis are an embedded culture.

Two-tier policing as you call it would probably look like more black and asian people ending up in prison - per capita - than white people. Oh… maybe you have a point.

Or is it all about poor people and austerity politics…
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Yeah, but JD Vance said something <laugh><laugh><laugh>
 
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Libby said:
Agree with your general point but isn't Islam Albania's main religion? Probably related to Ottoman rule?
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Good point, but I have never met an islamic Albanian. All the ones in Southampton don’t seem bothered about religion at all. If they are Muslims it is in the same way most of us are Christian.
 
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Good point, but I have never met an islamic Albanian. All the ones in Southampton don’t seem bothered about religion at all. If they are Muslims it is in the same way most of us are Christian.
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Yeah I think it's a largely non religious country but that of those religious Islam is the most followed.

The only Albanians I've ever met in Soton are the ones selling extremely poor quality cocaine. Never bothered asking their religion tbf <laugh>
 
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Libby said:
Know it's a minor thing btw and doesn't detract from your main point but worth


That's a relief mate. I was starting to think that we were only safe on Sunday due to Tottenham being a posh area full of gated communities.
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I know. I feel like I'm doing a public service here living in London, but I'm doing it for you guys. I'm ****ing terrified of all the Muslim tanks though, tbh.
 
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