Off Topic Politics Thread

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San Tejón said:
I guess you are referring to the Netflix programme Adolescence.
Might not be a bad idea, when you look at what is actually happening with children and knives.
An opinion piece below that outlines knife statistics.

THE Netflix knife-murder drama Adolescence was the wake-up call that Britain needed – and Keir Starmer is right to push for it to be shown in schools.

Children need to know where social media radicalisation can lead, and parents will have their eyes opened to what their children are seeing behind bedroom doors.

Adolescence is a fictional account of a 13-year-old killer, but it reflects the disturbing real-life statistic that 10 knife or offensive weapons crimes by children are recorded daily.

Eight in 10 teenage homicide victims are killed with knives. The government is right to make it harder to buy them online, and to hire 13,000 more police and support officers to patrol neighbourhoods.

But police on the streets are only one avenue in the battle to keep our children safe.

While Adolescence made clear its lead character’s uncontrolled rages may have led him to kill anyway, it showed it was social media that sparked that particular attack on that particular classmate at that particular time.

Which is why any attempt to water down new online safety laws must be resisted.
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As you quoted, Adolescence is a fictional account much like the books you mentioned.
So for two of Labour's most recent plans, one is to fulfil a promise to a TV personality and the other is influenced from a fictional TV series with an age rating of 15 to be shown in schools.

"Government policy planning is a complex, non-linear process involving multiple stages, including agenda setting, formulation, evidence gathering, debate, evaluation and implementation, shaped by various factors including electoral considerations, public opinion, and decision-makers' preferences."
Or, to save all that bother, buy a subscription to Netflix.

Rachel Reeves is a big fan of Mickey Mouse.
 
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It'sOnlyAGame said:
As you quoted, Adolescence is a fictional account much like the books you mentioned.
So for two of Labour's most recent plans, one is to fulfil a promise to a TV personality and the other is influenced from a fictional TV series with an age rating of 15 to be shown in schools.

"Government policy planning is a complex, non-linear process involving multiple stages, including agenda setting, formulation, evidence gathering, debate, evaluation and implementation, shaped by various factors including electoral considerations, public opinion, and decision-makers' preferences."
Or, to save all that bother, buy a subscription to Netflix.

Rachel Reeves is a big fan of Mickey Mouse.
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Do you disagree with the need to deal with the knife situation?
If not I don’t see what your problem is.
 
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Big Ern said:
No, I understood what you said, but can't quite work out how giving huge tax breaks to the wealthiest and plugging that funding gap by making the cheap imported good cost 20-50% more, removing medicaid and trying to end social security, helps the poor in any way. It seems to do the complete opposite.
Explain how that works.
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The rust belt in America is already in a depression and has been for years. Globalisation has had the effect of hundreds of thousands losing jobs, making everything more expensive, etc etc

They are voting for a huge overhaul of the current regime. A recession and crashing the stock market doesn’t bother them in tbe slightest.

Removing Medicaid and social security helps to reduce the tax burden on these people. So they support it.

This is literally why Trump won the populist vote. Huge change against the globalist regime
 
San Tejón said:
I guess you are referring to the Netflix programme Adolescence.
Might not be a bad idea, when you look at what is actually happening with children and knives.
An opinion piece below that outlines knife statistics.

THE Netflix knife-murder drama Adolescence was the wake-up call that Britain needed – and Keir Starmer is right to push for it to be shown in schools.

Children need to know where social media radicalisation can lead, and parents will have their eyes opened to what their children are seeing behind bedroom doors.

Adolescence is a fictional account of a 13-year-old killer, but it reflects the disturbing real-life statistic that 10 knife or offensive weapons crimes by children are recorded daily.

Eight in 10 teenage homicide victims are killed with knives. The government is right to make it harder to buy them online, and to hire 13,000 more police and support officers to patrol neighbourhoods.

But police on the streets are only one avenue in the battle to keep our children safe.

While Adolescence made clear its lead character’s uncontrolled rages may have led him to kill anyway, it showed it was social media that sparked that particular attack on that particular classmate at that particular time.

Which is why any attempt to water down new online safety laws must be resisted.
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It’s fiction.

Whole thing is a huge psyop to drum up support for new authoritarian laws to prohibit free speech
 
Osvaldorama said:
The rust belt in America is already in a depression and has been for years. Globalisation has had the effect of hundreds of thousands losing jobs, making everything more expensive, etc etc

They are voting for a huge overhaul of the current regime. A recession and crashing the stock market doesn’t bother them in tbe slightest.

Removing Medicaid and social security helps to reduce the tax burden on these people. So they support it.

This is literally why Trump won the populist vote. Huge change against the globalist regime
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I 100% agree with this but i am no longer convinced this strategy work and feel that economic regeneration will take 5 to 10 years to bear fruition. By this time China will eclipse the US and counties like Canada, Australia and the UK together with the UK will have reaigned with them too. This is on top of Asia where countries like India, Korea and Japan are realising that supporting China is in their interest. China and the EU are also keen to realign.

I get what Trump is doing but it will end up being a disaster for the US. Not even sure that the Democrats will salvage the economic situation. I really feel Starmer needs to get on board with China. There is a window to bring China from the cold and we need to back China and not US. As a socialist leader, Starmer is better placed to liaise with more Left leaning regimes as opppsed to American capitalism which no longer reflects our values. I feel that an anti American atance from the rest of the world will also help with political reform in China. The US is in terminal decline. We need to ditch them as they are not an ally. China is a better option that the current extreme Right Wing regime in US. The world can then unite against Trump and Putin.
 
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......loading...... said:
Tell that to the three women murdered by the crossbow idiot hours after he watched Tate.
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I had never heard of the Tate brothers until they were arrested. It is wierd to read of people like them as i am totally unaware of this stuff. I don't follow anyone on line and am not sure exactly how you do this. The only person i regularly listen to.is Rick Biatto.

Just surprised that these people exist online and assume you have to be of a mind to find them in the first place.
 
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Ian Thumwood said:
assume you have to be of a mind to find them in the first place
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Unfortunately, that's not always the case. Social media algorithms surface content from people like this as recommendations along the lines of 'people in your demographic have watched this, you might be interested in it too.'
 
Big Ern said:
No, I understood what you said, but can't quite work out how giving huge tax breaks to the wealthiest and plugging that funding gap by making the cheap imported good cost 20-50% more, removing medicaid and trying to end social security, helps the poor in any way. It seems to do the complete opposite.
Explain how that works.
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Ian Thumwood said:
I had never heard of the Tate brothers until they were arrested. It is wierd to read of people like them as i am totally unaware of this stuff. I don't follow anyone on line and am not sure exactly how you do this. The only person i regularly listen to.is Rick Biatto.

Just surprised that these people exist online and assume you have to be of a mind to find them in the first place.
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Many people find out about them by following left leaning politics, cultural pieces and investigative journalism. The support of the "manosphere" was influential in the 2020 US coup attempt, the subsequent enshrining of the "Big Lie" myth and Trump's return to office in 2024.
 
......loading...... said:
Anyone who uses the word psyops probably needs to lay off the meth.
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"Psyop" stands for Psychological Operations, which are military operations designed to influence the emotions, motivations, and objective reasoning of targeted individuals, organizations, and governments to achieve desired behavioral outcomes.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • Definition:
    PSYOP involves the strategic use of information and indicators to sway the attitudes and behaviors of a target audience.
  • Purpose:
    The goal is to influence the target's perceptions, opinions, and ultimately, their actions.
  • Methods:
    PSYOP can utilize various methods, including propaganda, targeted messaging, and other forms of communication, to achieve its objectives.
  • Context:
    PSYOP can be employed in both military and non-military contexts, including military operations other than warfare and joint operations.
  • Other Names:
    PSYOP is also known as Psychological Warfare (PSYWAR), Military Information Support Operations (MISO), or "Hearts and Minds" operations.
  • Conspiracy Theories:
    It's important to note that the term "psyop" has also been co-opted by conspiracy theorists to suggest that governments and global elites are manipulating events and sowing chaos, which is a misrepresentation of its actual meaning.
 
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