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Osvaldorama said:
Are you seriously saying you don’t think governments would try and manipulate their citizens with propaganda?
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This has a lot of words in it so you won’t read it.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1369118X.2025.2483827?src=exp-la#d1e117

But the term psyops is used by conspiracy theorists to suggest that shady groups of elites are manipulating the population. Like the World Economic Forum - which is a think tank which does nothing more than suggest approaches to modern life - which is now spouted by every easily-led rightwing automaton as the evil mind behind ‘globalism’. This despite the fact that globalism has been status quo my entire life.

So, yes, using the term psyops suggests you are the exact kind of person a psyop would work on if they really existed outside the military sphere.
 
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Osvaldorama said:
Are you seriously saying you don’t think governments would try and manipulate their citizens with propaganda?
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I think the point he was trying to make, was that there are certain giveaways when you find yourself in conversation with people who have fallen down the rabbit hole. The use of the term ‘psyop’ is a clear indicator of a person who has lost touch with reality.
 
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Archers Road said:
I think the point he was trying to make, was that there are certain giveaways when you find yourself in conversation with people who have fallen down the rabbit hole. The use of the term ‘psyop’ is a clear indicator of a person who has lost touch with reality.
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The only time i've heard the term was on Fox News, nuff said.
 
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Two men contested the final of a women's pool competition on Sunday. Apparently last December, a fencer competed in both the men's and women's category. Some people are fine with this absurdity.
What hope have women got to win a title or even fairly compete against other women in the woman's category? It's not just only about physical advantage while competing but missing out on being able to participate in the first place.
Women's sport may just as well be abandoned while sporting associations betray the people they are supposed to represent.

https://archive.md/AWrVy

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/04/05/a-fencers-brave-protest-against-men-in-womens-sports/
 
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This video, from a couple of days ago, exposes how Trump has been following the advice of Peter Navarro, with regards to tariffs.
Navarro has written several books in which he cites an economics expert, to support his ideas.
The name of the “expert” is Ron Vara, which is an anagram of Navarro.
He doesn’t exist as a separate entity, outside of Peter Navarro’s brain, but Trump has been following his advice.
Watch the video and be astounded at how Trump’s son in law selected Navarro to be Trump’s economic adviser.

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The media coverage of the tarrifs haa been fascinating. Even Right Wing commentors have been hostile with Trump's decisions and the BBC has almost being as sceptical as Channel Four. There seems to be no end of experts ready to speak out against the tariffs. The only people happy to speak to the media have ben from.the lunatic fringe of the Right.

Radio Four also mooted the unlikely scenario of unrelated countries now forming a coalition against the Americans. Probably our best oppprtunity to diminish American power once and for all.
 
It'sOnlyAGame said:
Two men contested the final of a women's pool competition on Sunday. Apparently last December, a fencer competed in both the men's and women's category. Some people are fine with this absurdity.
What hope have women got to win a title or even fairly compete against other women in the woman's category? It's not just only about physical advantage while competing but missing out on being able to participate in the first place.
Women's sport may just as well be abandoned while sporting associations betray the people they are supposed to represent.

https://archive.md/AWrVy

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/04/05/a-fencers-brave-protest-against-men-in-womens-sports/
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Yep. Ridiculous. Born a man, you can't compete in Women's sport. Should be so simple
 
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Ian Thumwood said:
I 100% agree with this but i am no longer convinced this strategy work and feel that economic regeneration will take 5 to 10 years to bear fruition. By this time China will eclipse the US and counties like Canada, Australia and the UK together with the UK will have reaigned with them too. This is on top of Asia where countries like India, Korea and Japan are realising that supporting China is in their interest. China and the EU are also keen to realign.

I get what Trump is doing but it will end up being a disaster for the US. Not even sure that the Democrats will salvage the economic situation. I really feel Starmer needs to get on board with China. There is a window to bring China from the cold and we need to back China and not US. As a socialist leader, Starmer is better placed to liaise with more Left leaning regimes as opppsed to American capitalism which no longer reflects our values. I feel that an anti American atance from the rest of the world will also help with political reform in China. The US is in terminal decline. We need to ditch them as they are not an ally. China is a better option that the current extreme Right Wing regime in US. The world can then unite against Trump and Putin.
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I’m not even sure that Starmer is that left wing
 
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This has a lot of words in it so you won’t read it.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1369118X.2025.2483827?src=exp-la#d1e117

But the term psyops is used by conspiracy theorists to suggest that shady groups of elites are manipulating the population. Like the World Economic Forum - which is a think tank which does nothing more than suggest approaches to modern life - which is now spouted by every easily-led rightwing automaton as the evil mind behind ‘globalism’. This despite the fact that globalism has been status quo my entire life.

So, yes, using the term psyops suggests you are the exact kind of person a psyop would work on if they really existed outside the military sphere.
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It’s because the notion that some sort of incel misogny is sweeping through Britain’s youth is complete fiction. Yet the goverment have jumped on it as if it’s a real issue because it furthers their aims of clamping down on free speech.

The data doesn’t lie:

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A 2023 Savanta survey of over 1,200 UK residents aged 16 to 25 found that while 41% of Black respondents viewed Andrew Tate favourably, and 31% of Asian respondents, only 15% of white respondents did.

And all of this is happening against a backdrop where 75% of MI5’s caseload is tied to Islamist terrorism and foreign nationals have become significantly overrepresented in sex and violence offence data:

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So yes - psyop describes the situation perfectly as they are essentially ignoring reality and attempting to deceive the gullible public about what is actually causing these issues in order to usher in draconian new laws

(Far right and Islamic extremism, mostly).

It is you guys who are out of touch with reality, not me.
 
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