Off Topic Politics Thread

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The thing is this particular forum used to be good for debate, for all viewpoints. Take the climate crisis theme currently going on. We don't all agree, but there is sensible debate with no sensationalism. It is what IMO this thread was designed for - different opinions and different viewpoints. No way will we all agree on everything. some will have common ground, some wont.

The problem with having your resident far right poster on here is that the thread just disintegrates into nonsense. The funny thing is that apparently we are all 'Lefties, liberals, communists', so if we are, why post? I wouldn't post on a far right forum.

Know your audience I say.

Yeah, it used to be quite interesting, but this thread has now just become "people argue with idiot. Idiot ignores, then posts more idiocy". It's quite dull. I think I'm going to take a break from this thread, sadly. He doesn't deserve the oxygen.
 
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So, given that countries like China are producing so much environmental waste that the UK's net zero efforts are not making a huge amount of difference, what is the solution?

Do we go full Trump and just go all in for energy over environment or do we stick to our guns?
 
To me I think the whole climate thing has been approached wrong by governments.

From day 1 it has been 'let's tax polluting things'. Where this is wrong is that sometimes it isn't easy to change. Take cars for example. You cannot overnight change from ICE to electric. What happens is in the interim, people who cannot convert to electric pay through the nose on petrol taxes, car tax, emission tax etc. What is the solution? I don't know, but this approach leads to a lot of people thinking that the climate crisis is a made up cash cow for governments.
 
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So, given that countries like China are producing so much environmental waste that the UK's net zero efforts are not making a huge amount of difference, what is the solution?

Do we go full Trump and just go all in for energy over environment or do we stick to our guns?

At some point we need to make the choice to not buy the high impact products. Our issue is how comfortable we are and our need to consume. Not so long ago, I tried to make a shed for my street full of garden tools etc (which I was paying for) so we had one mower, one strimmer etc. It has always struck me that we have way too much of each thing. A few friends and I now share all of our tools, so if we need something new, we buy one and share. After all, how many jigsaws or electric planes do we really need? It's funny when you live in a small remote community how much sharing happens. As a community we generate electricity (hydro), have district heating (local biomass) etc.

This is old, but has always stuck with me -
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Just been thinking about London being unrecognisable from 30 years ago.

Isn’t this everywhere? Did your area look the same in 1995 as it did in 1965? Or in 1965 as it did in 1935?

It is called progress and evolution. Though some posters have just barely evolved from Neanderthal.
Is that the one who posts the missing link?
 
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Just been thinking about London being unrecognisable from 30 years ago.

Isn’t this everywhere? Did your area look the same in 1995 as it did in 1965? Or in 1965 as it did in 1935?

It is called progress and evolution. Though some posters have just barely evolved from Neanderthal.

The main differences are in the gradual degradation of high streets and local businesses because of internet shopping. That plus the death of community hubs/pubs and growth of gyms. None of which are to do with immigration.
 
The main differences are in the gradual degradation of high streets and local businesses because of internet shopping. That plus the death of community hubs/pubs and growth of gyms.

So true. Yet the seeds were sown long ago by the UK particulary ready acceptance of chainstores, which lead to identikit highstreets - they then closed failing stores and left for the internet.

Small towns in Italy have green pharmacy crosses on every street, as the Italians blocked companies like good ole Boots coming in! My brother lives in Lecco (45k pop) I reckon it easily has more shops than Southampton.
 
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