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Saints_Alive said:
British culture is evolving as it always has done ever since humans have lived here. Ancient Britons, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Vikings, Normans, Jews, Irish, African, West Indian, Asians and most recently from continental Europe.
It is evolving at a faster pace now because the planet is more connected through technology than it has ever been. I'd like to think that I would be accepted in any country of the World that I chose to live in and have the freedom of choice where and of course there are millions of people of British heritage throughout that World.
I think the idea that British culture is somehow being lost is a bit of a myth, Christianity is receding naturally in the same way that smoking is, people are more informed about it.
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This is the fundamental mistake that most liberal progressives make.

They assume that because Britain is prosperous, welcoming and tolerant of others views, that other nations are the same.

Historically we live the most tolerant and diverse society in history, yet still it is seen as an evil racist patriarchy by those who chose to believe the mainstream media.

That tolerant society will disappear if we don’t defend what made this country that way in the first place.
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
In fact, saying that Musk "obviously wasn't" doing a Nazi salute is incredibly intellectually dishonest. Os may be many things, but I actually don't think he's thick, but unfortunately we're in this position where because it's all about 'winning', he's incapable of proper criticism where it's due, because he has to get one over Loading or Jabbo or something.

Was thinking about the salute last night, and I'd say it almost definitely *was* a Nazi salute.

The only thing in favour of "obviously wasn't" is the following -

  • well known liar Elon Musk says so
That's it. That's your lot. Childish, ket addled proven liar who is rich enough not to care what you think says so.

In the other corner - on "definitely was" we have the following -

  • it's exactly the sort of stunt Musk would play to see if he can get away with it. It's exciting to him and he's a child (as per the Beavis and Butthead first five minutes with Rogan). "I did a Nazi...hurr hurr"
  • his recent very vocal support for the likes of the AfD party in Germany would tell you that he leans toward that direction (if not the whole way).
  • if you're doing a spontaneous throwing your heart out to people, pretty much everyone would do it where you 'clasp' or grip you heart, then throw it out from a clenched hand like confetti. That's the normal way of doing that. You don't do a flat hand to the chest and out, y'know a...umm....Nazi salute. Which leads us on to -
  • here's the big one. I don't care how autistic you are (and how offensive is that excuse to autistic people) - EVERYONE but everyone knows that you don't do that action. Everyone has done it once to try it out, at school or in private, and you know in your gut that it is entirely unacceptable and not to do that. Slapping your chest then throwing out that salute. Every. Single. Person. In. The. World knows what that means. Including Elon Musk. And you don't do it because you're suddenly overcome with excitement.


    He did it on purpose because he thought it would be fun and to see if he'd get away with it. That's the guy you're siding with right there. Probably worth thinking that one through.
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All of this is nonsense imo.

You only think it’s a Nazi salute because the media propaganda has been weaponised against Elon.

Just like people only now think Trump is a racist because they did the same thing to him.

There are literally millions of clips of any celebrity that could be cut and pretend it’s a Nazi salute:

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I find it absolutely astonishing that people are actually falling for this garbage. It’s like your brains are fried by propaganda and you’re unable to think for yourself. Genuinely.

Anyone that thinks this is a Nazi salute needs to review where they get their information
 
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Literally just use your brains and try and just use objective logic and common sense, instead of just believing the media’s lies that you are being force fed…

Why would he do a Nazi salute, in an open forum? What would he possibly gain, even if he was a Nazi?
Then ask yourself how you even know this information. Why is this random clip of Elon musk at an event being pumped into your brains over and over again?

Instead, what’s happened is a specific large section of the media, that have an agenda against Elon and Trump’s investigation into fraud have pumped propaganda into the world, pretending over and over again that he did a Nazi salute. And now somehow people are actually starting to believe it.

The power of propaganda is surreal to watch when you can think for yourself

All you have to do is watch the whole 20 second clip and you debunk the entire thing in 20 seconds.

Literally THE SAME people that told you all Biden was mentally competent for 2 years, which you believed incorrectly, are telling you this info. And you believe them again. It’s astonishing
 
Osvaldorama said:
Literally just use your brains and try and just use objective logic and common sense, instead of just believing the media’s lies that you are being force fed…

Why would he do a Nazi salute, in an open forum? What would he possibly gain, even if he was a Nazi?
Then ask yourself how you even know this information. Why is this random clip of Elon musk at an event being pumped into your brains over and over again?

Instead, what’s happened is a specific large section of the media, that have an agenda against Elon and Trump’s investigation into fraud have pumped propaganda into the world, pretending over and over again that he did a Nazi salute. And now somehow people are actually starting to believe it.

The power of propaganda is surreal to watch when you can think for yourself

All you have to do is watch the whole 20 second clip and you debunk the entire thing in 20 seconds.

Literally THE SAME people that told you all Biden was mentally competent for 2 years, which you believed incorrectly, are telling you this info. And you believe them again. It’s astonishing
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You really can't see the irony of your post at all?
 
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Trump has completely replaced the Trustees if the Kennedy Centre in Washington DC and in the same process ,member himself the Head of the same. This has been described as a war in woke but means that the programming will now be determined by Trump acolytes.

As someone who regularly attends gigs, I find this disturbing with Trump dictating was should be performed and what shouldn't. It is shutting down artistic expression as was the case in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. Composers deemed to be woke will not have their works performed so expect modernist composers or homosexual composers like Poulenc, Symanowski, Handel and Britten cancelled.
 
Osvaldorama said:
Literally just use your brains and try and just use objective logic and common sense, instead of just believing the media’s lies that you are being force fed…

Why would he do a Nazi salute, in an open forum? What would he possibly gain, even if he was a Nazi?
Then ask yourself how you even know this information. Why is this random clip of Elon musk at an event being pumped into your brains over and over again?

Instead, what’s happened is a specific large section of the media, that have an agenda against Elon and Trump’s investigation into fraud have pumped propaganda into the world, pretending over and over again that he did a Nazi salute. And now somehow people are actually starting to believe it.

The power of propaganda is surreal to watch when you can think for yourself

All you have to do is watch the whole 20 second clip and you debunk the entire thing in 20 seconds.

Literally THE SAME people that told you all Biden was mentally competent for 2 years, which you believed incorrectly, are telling you this info. And you believe them again. It’s astonishing
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Ah okay. You really have gone.

I hope you can manage to get out.
 
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Os

As a DOGE kid in the know, what to you think of Trump’s intention to take control of Greenland and Canada ? Should the Yanks also take back control of the Panama Canal?

Are there other countries that you feel would be in the interest of America to conquer? What about the Philippines or Cuba ? Do you have any other suggestions?
 
Os

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are trying to find Greenland, Canada and Panama on a map ?

O level geography is not what it was !

Can you ask your Mum and Dad ? When you have answer, please do the courtesy of coming back with an answer .
 
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Le Tissier's Laces said:
Ah okay. You really have gone.

I hope you can manage to get out.
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You have gone even further.

Literally making up that someone is a Nazi because the TV told you to. LOL.

It’s an insult to those suffering actual anti-semitism to throw the word Nazi around so ridiculously casually
 
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AOC was seen doing a Nazi salute too

She’s basically Hitler we should burn her cars apparently, and that would be funny according to your logic
 
Osvaldorama said:
You have gone even further.

Literally making up that someone is a Nazi because the TV told you to. LOL.

It’s an insult to those suffering actual anti-semitism to throw the word Nazi around so ridiculously casually
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There are two responses to this (check grok as I know you miss the subtleties of most posts without help )

Projection
Racial Gaslighting
 
Os, it’s interesting how your way of proving you’re not racist always seems to involve saying something… well, racist. Instead of addressing the point, you twist things around to make it seem like someone else is the problem. It’s a pattern that keeps showing up.

Not an insult (so don’t go bleating to the mods…only to call them out), but more of an observation.
 
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