Off Topic Politics Thread

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Nah, they won't be back. It's not quite the love in you're thinking of there, it's just people being civil, having discussions and generally it's currently all quite nice. What it is, is people (and in particular well known people) being tired of having everything they post hijacked by "blue tick" payers with agendas, angry shouty people, crypto ads and bot farm noise. As I said previously, it's not about deriding or being against free speech, it's not wanting to deal with arseholes. I think that's something anyone right minded would get behind, regardless of political persuasion.

When Twitter first started, it wasn't a particularly political platform, but became a firestorm in that arena. Many people don't want to engage with that on social media, and that's absolutely understandable, and fair enough. The only place I talk politics online (in reality) is here (and I don't even really do that all that much).

(By the way, Sopel didn't announce he was leaving Twitter. He said he was going to go to Bluesky, but would pop into Twitter occasionally. Which is what he's done).
Guido making fun of Sopel. Apparently "occasional" classes as 10 tweets vs the 13 on bluesky since he made a big thing about it.
 
Guido making fun of Sopel. Apparently "occasional" classes as 10 tweets vs the 13 on bluesky since he made a big thing about it.
I never go on X. He seems to have posted once about going over to BlueSky but will still post on X now and then.

About 50k raving rightwing loonies seem to have jumped on him like Catholic Priests onto an abandoned schoolboy. God that place is toxic.

Everything is about winning and nothing is about debate. It’s as bad as bringing this back up days later to relay what some other moron said about this.

Yawn-o-rama.
 
A lot of ****philes and “Minor Attracted People” have taken residency on Bluesky. Make of that what you will
 
A lot of ****philes and “Minor Attracted People” have taken residency on Bluesky. Make of that what you will

You might want to expand a little on that? Pretty sure there’s undesirables all over every social media platform. Where are you getting this particular random bit of info from?
 
Even the punchline about National Service is a year out of date. I had to check the date of the article.

But another article trying to intensify the them vs us rhetoric. The city professional who ‘props up the whole social system’ is simultaneously disgusted at the thought of caring for old people. Actually, the social contract is propped up by all, for all, and its failure fails all of us.

Piss poor journalism.

As usual you miss the point completely.

The point is the incentive to work is being completely eroded.
The social contract for working people is breaking down. There will be huge problems.

Revised figures from the ONS says net migration into the UK hit an annual rate of 906,000 last summer.

Completely unsustainable.
 
As usual you miss the point completely.

The point is the incentive to work is being completely eroded.
The social contract for working people is breaking down. There will be huge problems.

Revised figures from the ONS says net migration into the UK hit an annual rate of 906,000 last summer.

Completely unsustainable.
If you read past the headline, something you appear never to actually do, you would see that the figure for THIS YEAR has FALLEN to an estimated 728,000.
 
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Must be true then, stands to reason.

Currently where the left go, degeneracy tends to follow, unfortunately. They seem to have abandoned all sense of morals & ethics. They constantly try to erode women’s rights and their normalisation of child abuse is horrific quite frankly. Whether that be gender surgery on minors or the normalising of ****philia, it seems to be par for the course with the democrats at the moment.
 
If you read past the headline, something you appear never to actually do, you would see that the figure for THIS YEAR has FALLEN to an estimated 728,000.

You’re wrong again.
ONS just revised it up today.

This doesn’t include illegals either so the true numbers are vastly higher.

We have a huge problem; it’s no wonder services are stretched beyond breaking point
 
It is like listening to Trump. All hyperbole and sensation. Why do these people all throw out generic buzz phrases and expect to be taken seriously.

Degeneracy of the left? Normalising ****phillia?

I can find you rightwing examples of people who want to burn jews, exterminate muslims and force women to bear their rape children. Is that what normalising means?
 
Currently where the left go, degeneracy tends to follow, unfortunately. They seem to have abandoned all sense of morals & ethics. They constantly try to erode women’s rights and their normalisation of child abuse is horrific quite frankly. Whether that be gender surgery on minors or the normalising of ****philia, it seems to be par for the course with the democrats at the moment.
Interesting you use the American spelling for *****philia. It’s almost like you have copies and pasted something from social media.
 
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You’re wrong again.
ONS just revised it up today.

This doesn’t include illegals either so the true numbers are vastly higher.

We have a huge problem; it’s no wonder services are stretched beyond breaking point
Not according to the actual published data, but knock yourself out mate.
 
As usual you miss the point completely.

The point is the incentive to work is being completely eroded.
The social contract for working people is breaking down. There will be huge problems.

Revised figures from the ONS says net migration into the UK hit an annual rate of 906,000 last summer.

Completely unsustainable.
The incentive to work was eroded when it became obvious that the minimum wage is not sufficient to meet the outgoings of a working class family or individual.
That so many working people are on universal credit is shameful. In December 2023 (haven’t found later figures yet) 38% of those receiving universal credit were employed.
At some time a government has to step in and use rent capping to help those who can’t afford to buy their own home and I wouldn’t be averse to capping the prices on property either.
I never thought I would live to see the start of a dystopian society but I think we are there now.
 
The incentive to work was eroded when it became obvious that the minimum wage is not sufficient to meet the outgoings of a working class family or individual.
That so many working people are on universal credit is shameful. In December 2023 (haven’t found later figures yet) 38% of those receiving universal credit were employed.
At some time a government has to step in and use rent capping to help those who can’t afford to buy their own home and I wouldn’t be averse to capping the prices on property either.
I never thought I would live to see the start of a dystopian society but I think we are there now.

Well, yeah, but, but it must be all these undocumented foreigners causing the problems, 'cos it stands to reason, or at least that's what I read on Twitter, sorry X
 
We have a huge problem. It’s absolutely massive. The biggest biggety problem the world has ever seen. Such a problem. You don’t know the scale of this problem. I was talking to Vlad, you know, and this problem, this covfefe problem, it was just so utterly mindbogglingly big. And you know what, these people, you know these people, they are eating the cats. They are eating the dogs. All these illegal people. Just so so many.

And the libtards, sexually molesting all the children. My friend Jeffrey, he told me what they do, these people. Just the worst people. I have video of all of it. Lots of video. Just the most video you ever saw.
 
The incentive to work was eroded when it became obvious that the minimum wage is not sufficient to meet the outgoings of a working class family or individual.
That so many working people are on universal credit is shameful. In December 2023 (haven’t found later figures yet) 38% of those receiving universal credit were employed.
At some time a government has to step in and use rent capping to help those who can’t afford to buy their own home and I wouldn’t be averse to capping the prices on property either.
I never thought I would live to see the start of a dystopian society but I think we are there now.

The reason for people’s wages being eroded is currency debasement and inflation.

Literally everything you mentioned in your post is caused by the over-financialisation of the economy due to excessive money printing.

The answer absolutely is not central control. The answer is a sound money system and free markets that enable growth and allow employees to earn a fair wage. This means lower taxes, incentives for working hard and most importantly a smaller nation state.

Central controls and socialism will only make everything worse. Especially for working people with no assets. Every single time governments think they can fix pricing and centrally plan markets, things get worse for working people.
 
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