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Of course it's opinion, and you're absolutely entitled to disagree. Seems an odd one to disagree with though, as his plan to increase spending alongside tax cuts will likely increase US debt by $7.5 trillion (according to the impartial Committee for Responsible Federal Budget).

No matter who gets in, they will all do that.

At least trump will spend printed money on American industry.

Kamala will be a puppet for the military industrial complex and spend it on forever wars.
 
The LBC correspondent in America has said that the Republicans are going all out to challenge the signatures on early ballots.
Arizona will be receiving, this morning, about 500,000 (half a million) of these ballots and will, apparently, be checking every signature and potentially demanding additional proof that the signatures are valid.
They could potentially challenge every one of those ballots and then have just 5 days in which to complete the task, invalidating those that aren’t checked.
The bit about this starts around 3 minutes in.

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We have many problems in this part of the world but thankfully we aren't as sick a region as the US. There can't be many less likeable nations. Constantly meddling in affairs that have nothing to do with them, making the world less peaceful as a result. Having the choice of basically two God awful parties. Heathcare only for the rich. Inequality that is off the charts. The worst quality food which fuels obesity levels. Access to guns where not even schoolchildren are safe....and worst of all, no relegation in any of their sports.
When I think of the US population, in my imaginatión, I think of its great athletes from Muhammad Ali, Billie-Jean King, Althea Gibson, Ed Moses, Allyson Félix, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Noah Lyles, Serena Williams. In music we can conjure up listening to.Gershwin, the songs of Motown, Philly International and Stax. We listen to the raw emotions of Dylan and Báez. I can see the successes of Nasa, Ford, GM, Microsoft and Apple, works of literature from Twain, Hemingway and Chomsky. Great films of every genre imaginable and wonderful leaders like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama. This to me is how I want to see the USA. Trump and his MAGA disciples are but an annoying wart on the body of the USA.
 
The LBC correspondent in America has said that the Republicans are going all out to challenge the signatures on early ballots.
Arizona will be receiving, this morning, about 500,000 (half a million) of these ballots and will, apparently, be checking every signature and potentially demanding additional proof that the signatures are valid.
They could potentially challenge every one of those ballots and then have just 5 days in which to complete the task, invalidating those that aren’t checked.
The bit about this starts around 3 minutes in.

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If I cared about democracy this would enrage me. If I bought the Hitler rhetoric, I would be overjoyed. They can burn the Reichstag next week!
 
When I think of the US population, in my imaginatión, I think of its great athletes from Muhammad Ali, Billie-Jean King, Althea Gibson, Ed Moses, Allyson Félix, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Noah Lyles, Serena Williams. In music we can conjure up listening to.Gershwin, the songs of Motown, Philly International and Stax. We listen to the raw emotions of Dylan and Báez. I can see the successes of Nasa, Ford, GM, Microsoft and Apple, works of literature from Twain, Hemingway and Chomsky. Great films of every genre imaginable and wonderful leaders like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama. This to me is how I want to see the USA. Trump and his MAGA disciples are but an annoying wart on the body of the USA.
Culturally second to none and not far off in sport. Beautiful parts of it too .Basically everything else in the country is grotesque though. Has been long before now but it's probably worse than ever..Guns, foreign policy, healthcare, drugs, law and order, death penalty... It's a sick place that is normalised by the way their culture has been embraced in this part of the world.. Could be an amazing place but the powers that be choose for it not to be
 
Culturally second to none and not far off in sport. Beautiful parts of it too .Basically everything else in the country is grotesque though. Has been long before now but it's probably worse than ever..Guns, foreign policy, healthcare, drugs, law and order, death penalty... It's a sick place that is normalised by the way their culture has been embraced in this part of the world.. Could be an amazing place but the powers that be choose for it not to be

Agree 100%. I won't bring up your point in my meeting I have with the US guys in 25 mins though....
 
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No matter who gets in, they will all do that.

At least trump will spend printed money on American industry.

Kamala will be a puppet for the military industrial complex and spend it on forever wars.

We can but see. I’d encourage you to read William Hague’s piece on it in The Times today. Whatever you may think of him, he’s a good thinker.
 
When I think of the US population, in my imaginatión, I think of its great athletes from Muhammad Ali, Billie-Jean King, Althea Gibson, Ed Moses, Allyson Félix, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Noah Lyles, Serena Williams. In music we can conjure up listening to.Gershwin, the songs of Motown, Philly International and Stax. We listen to the raw emotions of Dylan and Báez. I can see the successes of Nasa, Ford, GM, Microsoft and Apple, works of literature from Twain, Hemingway and Chomsky. Great films of every genre imaginable and wonderful leaders like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama. This to me is how I want to see the USA. Trump and his MAGA disciples are but an annoying wart on the body of the USA.

Culturally second to none and not far off in sport. Beautiful parts of it too .Basically everything else in the country is grotesque though. Has been long before now but it's probably worse than ever..Guns, foreign policy, healthcare, drugs, law and order, death penalty... It's a sick place that is normalised by the way their culture has been embraced in this part of the world.. Could be an amazing place but the powers that be choose for it not to be

These two posts just about sums the USA up, wonderful achievements countered by the worst type of human behaviour. Probably similar to many other developed countries but on a much bigger scale. I've always enjoyed visiting and most of the people I've met have been very hospitable.

You should get a job with the US tourist board Ides.
 
We can but see. I’d encourage you to read William Hague’s piece on it in The Times today. Whatever you may think of him, he’s a good thinker.

I just tried, but unfortunately it’s behind a paywall.

I know everyone on here is convinced that trump is the devil reincarnated thanks to the left wing propaganda, but one more of many reasons to vote for trump is he has promised to pardon Ross Ulbricht immediately.

Also - JD Vance is incredibly impressive. Absolutely would trust him over the mess that is the dems
 
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I just tried, but unfortunately it’s behind a paywall.

I know everyone on here is convinced that trump is the devil reincarnated thanks to the left wing propaganda, but one more of many reasons to vote for trump is he has promised to pardon Ross Ulbricht immediately.

Also - JD Vance is incredibly impressive. Absolutely would trust him over the mess that is the dems
Nothing to do with 'left wing propaganda', but everything to do with him being a misogynist, liar, corrupt criminal with the ethics of a psychopath. Whatever world you live in Os you can get medication that might bring you back to the real one..
 
Nothing to do with 'left wing propaganda', but everything to do with him being a misogynist, liar, corrupt criminal with the ethics of a psychopath. Whatever world you live in Os you can get medication that might bring you back to the real one..

Most of it is hyperbole though.

Exhibit A:
Kamala posted this earlier
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What he actually said was this:
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They twist his words and then lie about it to try and incite violence against him and his supporters.

Kamala and Obama are STILL pretending the Charlottesville thing was real. All you have to do is take 2 minutes to watch the full clip and you will see what he said didn’t endorse the white supremacists at all. Total clown show
 
Most of it is hyperbole though.

Exhibit A:
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They twist his words and then lie about it to try and incite violence against him and his supporters.

Kamala and Obama are STILL pretending the Charlottesville thing was real. All you have to do is take 2 minutes to watch the full clip and you will see what he said didn’t endorse the white supremacists at all. Total clown show
I watched the unfolding events on January 6th 2021 live on TV. I saw Trump whip the crowd up into a frenzy and urge them to march to the Capitol. I heard him demand Mike Pence’s head. Everything that happened that day was at his behest.

When he loses the election and goes to jail for this and all his other many crimes I will breathe a huge sigh of relief that this sad period in American history is finally over.

You’ll just have to find another cult to follow, you poor deluded fool.
 
I watched the unfolding events on January 6th 2021 live on TV. I saw Trump whip the crowd up into a frenzy and urge them to march to the Capitol. I heard him demand Mike Pence’s head. Everything that happened that day was at his behest.

When he loses the election and goes to jail for this and all his other many crimes I will breathe a huge sigh of relief that this sad period in American history is finally over.

You’ll just have to find another cult to follow, you poor deluded fool.

The sooner Trump is locked up the better.
 
Just Trumpeting a bit of banter. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-violent-rhetoric-timeline/680403/

“If I don’t get elected … it’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.”
March 16, 2024, during a speech about the U.S. auto-manufacturing industry in Ohio (Trump’s campaign later said that he was referencing a “bloodbath” for the automaker industry)'

“In Colorado, they’re so brazen, they’re taking over sections of the state. And you know, getting them out will be a bloody story. They should have never been allowed to come into our country. Nobody checked them.”
September 7, 2024, at a rally in Wisconsin, referring to his mass-deportation plans

“I always say, we have two enemies … We have the outside enemy, and then we have the enemy from within, and the enemy from within, in my opinion, is more dangerous than China, Russia, and all these countries … We have some very bad people; we have some sick people, radical-left lunatics. And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by the National Guard—or, if really necessary, by the military.”
October 13, 2024, in a Fox News interview.

“That was a day of love from the standpoint of the millions—it’s like, hundreds of thousands—it could’ve been the largest group I’ve ever spoken before.”
October 16, 2024, referring to the January 6 insurrection during a Univision town hall
 
I watched the unfolding events on January 6th 2021 live on TV. I saw Trump whip the crowd up into a frenzy and urge them to march to the Capitol. I heard him demand Mike Pence’s head. Everything that happened that day was at his behest.

When he loses the election and goes to jail for this and all his other many crimes I will breathe a huge sigh of relief that this sad period in American history is finally over.

You’ll just have to find another cult to follow, you poor deluded fool.


In my opinion he is by far the lesser of two evils. Kamala is an unelected, incompetent buffoon. She would be another puppet president like the mentally unfit Biden. Just like under Biden, her weakness will unleash more chaos and wars on the world.

At least Trump will strive for peace like he did before. And to me world peace is more important than any of his previous crimes. We need a strong America.

I am not sure why there is the need for the insults in this case. My opinion is just as valid as yours.
 
In my opinion he is by far the lesser of two evils. Kamala is an unelected, incompetent buffoon. She would be another puppet president like the mentally unfit Biden. Just like under Biden, her weakness will unleash more chaos and wars on the world.

At least Trump will strive for peace like he did before. And to me world peace is more important than any of his previous crimes. We need a strong America.

I am not sure why there is the need for the insults in this case. My opinion is just as valid as yours.
Pots and kettles my old mucker.
 
In my opinion he is by far the lesser of two evils. Kamala is an unelected, incompetent buffoon. She would be another puppet president like the mentally unfit Biden. Just like under Biden, her weakness will unleash more chaos and wars on the world.

At least Trump will strive for peace like he did before. And to me world peace is more important than any of his previous crimes. We need a strong America.

I am not sure why there is the need for the insults in this case. My opinion is just as valid as yours.
Trump will strive for peace in Ukraine by forcing them to concede.