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Osvaldorama said:
That’s a matter of perspective though.

In my opinion and many millions of others, trump is a much better shout than Harris. Not just for the USA but for the world
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Of course it's opinion, and you're absolutely entitled to disagree. Seems an odd one to disagree with though, as his plan to increase spending alongside tax cuts will likely increase US debt by $7.5 trillion (according to the impartial Committee for Responsible Federal Budget).
 
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The climate crisis is a hoax so that big businesses and corporations can slowly land grab rural assets and introduce new forms of state control.
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Yes, climate crisis is a hoax. Half of Spain being hit by massive flooding isn't a ****ing crisis at all is it?
 
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tomw24 said:
Yes, climate crisis is a hoax. Half of Spain being hit by massive flooding isn't a ****ing crisis at all is it?
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Between 2020 & 2021, Spain destroyed over 250 dams in order to restore “the natural course” of it’s rivers.

The floods are actually a direct result of the insane green policies. Not due to climate change at all.
 
Osvaldorama said:
Between 2020 & 2021, Spain destroyed over 250 dams in order to restore “the natural course” of it’s rivers.

The floods are a direct result of the insane green policies. Not due to climate change
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No they're not! The floods were caused by a weather phenomenon - a cold drop - which resulted in a year's worth of rain falling in a day in some areas. Climate change is making these weather events more common and more deadly.
 
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tomw24 said:
No they're not! The floods were caused by a weather phenomenon - a cold drop - which resulted in a year's worth of rain falling in a day in some areas. Climate change is making these weather events more common and more deadly.
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It was unprecedented rain for sure. But the floods and rivers bursting are a direct result of the EU’s insane green policies.

Similar insanity to filling farmers fields with solar panels instead of letting farmers grow our food.

They’re all morons
 
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Labour MP out canvassing for Kamala Harris.

I hope those that were angry at Farage will feel equally aggrieved at this.

Wouldn’t want to see any hypocrites on here, would we
 
Osvaldorama said:
It was unprecedented rain for sure. But the floods and rivers bursting are a direct result of the EU’s insane green policies.

Similar insanity to filling farmers fields with solar panels instead of letting farmers grow our food.

They’re all morons
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Have you ever heard the word "nuance" or the expression "shades of grey"?

It is perfectly possible for greed and grabbing a quick buck to cause damage, even when "doing green stuff". It is absolutely true that too many farms turning to green energy would be bad for our food production. We should probably stop the rampant capitalistic urge to buy cheap and sell... cheap then. Supermarkets have suppressed farms so that the idea of having one field for solar, earning a steady income, is very appealing.

This is the same capitalistic urge that cuts down the rainforest, turns it to pasture, then sees that pasture become wasteland.

Morons is a term we reserve for people who cannot engage with nuance, or the grey shades.
 
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Osvaldorama said:
That’s a matter of perspective though.

In my opinion and many millions of others, trump is a much better shout than Harris. Not just for the USA but for the world
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Why? What would he do to make the world a better place? IMO Trump is a bully. Just observé the way he treats press conferences and tries to demean CNN, the BBC, CBS. Only thugs do that!!
 
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tomw24 said:
No they're not! The floods were caused by a weather phenomenon - a cold drop - which resulted in a year's worth of rain falling in a day in some areas. Climate change is making these weather events more common and more deadly.
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Not worth the effort Tom, you're dealing with crackpot conspiralunacy driven by the fossil fuel lobby of misinformation and lies.

As far as I'm concerned, and I believe the vast majority feel the same, if David Attenborough, Chris Packham et al, the meteorological ecological and climate scientific worlds tells us we're ****ed then we're ****ed.
 
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I saw an interview with an undecided voter in a swing state. What they said hit home to me.

He says he voted for Harris because she is promising loyalty to voters, while Trump is seeking loyalty from them, which he doesn't believe is the right attitude.

“If the person that is elected believes that all of us have input and can form the government... that's very different than if they're saying to us 'We need to follow what I say'."
 
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thereisonlyoneno7 said:
I saw an interview with an undecided voter in a swing state. What they said hit home to me.

He says he voted for Harris because she is promising loyalty to voters, while Trump is seeking loyalty from them, which he doesn't believe is the right attitude.

“If the person that is elected believes that all of us have input and can form the government... that's very different than if they're saying to us 'We need to follow what I say'."
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I heard an interview with a man who said - not in these words - that Trump was a revolting human being but he believed in denying women autonomy over their own bodies so he was the least sinful option.

Humanity is terrifying.
 
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The Ides of March said:
Why? What would he do to make the world a better place? IMO Trump is a bully. Just observé the way he treats press conferences and tries to demean CNN, the BBC, CBS. Only thugs do that!!
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Less war. Less inflation.

Biden/Harris have relentlessly tried to crack down on free speech and use law fare against their opposition.

Imo Trump is the very obviously the better qualified candidate. Kamala Harris is unelected and doesn’t even deserve to be in the conversation. She is not fit to be president.

It’s worrying that people even think she should be there.
 
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I heard an interview with a man who said - not in these words - that Trump was a revolting human being but he believed in denying women autonomy over their own bodies so he was the least sinful option.

Humanity is terrifying.
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Trump has already said he’s pro choice and will leave it to the states to decide. The whole propaganda about abortions is the democrats last hope of staying relevant
 
thereisonlyoneno7 said:
I find it sad that the country that prides itself on democracy has to brace itself for an election outcome by boarding up windows etc in fear of civil unrest.

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We have many problems in this part of the world but thankfully we aren't as sick a region as the US. There can't be many less likeable nations. Constantly meddling in affairs that have nothing to do with them, making the world less peaceful as a result. Having the choice of basically two God awful parties. Heathcare only for the rich. Inequality that is off the charts. The worst quality food which fuels obesity levels. Access to guns where not even schoolchildren are safe....and worst of all, no relegation in any of their sports.
 
thebronze14 said:
We have many problems in this part of the world but thankfully we aren't as sick a region as the US. There can't be many less likeable nations. Constantly meddling in affairs that have nothing to do with them, making the world less peaceful as a result. Having the choice of basically two God awful parties. Heathcare only for the rich. Inequality that is off the charts. The worst quality food which fuels obesity levels. Access to guns where not even schoolchildren are safe....and worst of all, no relegation in any of their sports.
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It’s already started.. reports that voting booths are playing up.

Why don’t they just use pencil and paper with voter ID. It’s crazy
 
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