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What on earth has Elon Musk done to be compared with Isaac Newton or Einstein? What is his contribution to our understanding of gravity?

ps. Calling his company Tesla does not make Musk a pioneering developer of the use of the electric current; it just means he named his company after someone who was.

Nikola Tesla died broke, btw.

He didn't even do that, for what it's worth. He didn't found Tesla.
 
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All of the issues you raised have been solved.

The way I see it, in politics through history, there is a pendulum that swings from left to right, in a sinusoidal pattern.

We are now way past the tipping point where liberalism served its purpose of equality of input.

We have come so far in society that we are at the point where the liberals are now wrong and the conservatives are correct to want to protect society and traditional values.

You still seem to think we are in the 60s/70s (the 1860s).

If you zoom out to modern day, we live in easily the most tolerant society there has ever been, where opportunity is more abundant than it has ever been.

The woke mind virus is this victim mindset which is teaching people that they live in an evil white patriarchy.
Tolerances are hard won and hard to keep. The American war on women’s procreative rights is a symptom of your conservatism. The Russian laws against promoting homosexuality (what moron thinks people become gay because they see a rainbow flag?) are part of your conservative pushback. I see most of this as male insecurity, to be honest.
 
Tolerances are hard won and hard to keep. The American war on women’s procreative rights is a symptom of your conservatism. The Russian laws against promoting homosexuality (what moron thinks people become gay because they see a rainbow flag?) are part of your conservative pushback. I see most of this as male insecurity, to be honest.
Interesting, a hark back to former patriarchy perhaps.
 
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Where do you get this stuff from? The US is just about the most patriotic planet on Earth. So much so that in deifying the state they meet one of the criteria for fascism.
America is also a country with one of the greatest divisions between rich and poor. The wealthy are very wealthy and the poor are very very poor. The American dream is a myth used to keep the poor man in his place. The USA may be one of the richest but is 27th for social mobility. Most European countries have better social mobility.

What is this woke mind virus? Sounds like the kind of thing people too insecure to deal with social change say. Was it a woke mind problem when the suffragette (branded filth by people who would today attack wokism) fought for change to gender perception? Was it a woke mind problem when we stopped imprisoning gay men (branded filth by people who would today attack wokism) for being gay? Was it a woke mind problem when we stopped burning people at the stake for not being Christians (branded… you get the point)?
Your resilience is laudable <cheers>

I was feeling a bit delicate this morning and I thought it was a bit of a hangover, turns out it was probably the woke mind virus …
… I was feeling particularly liberal last night :oops:
 
What on earth has Elon Musk done to be compared with Isaac Newton or Einstein? What is his contribution to our understanding of gravity?

ps. Calling his company Tesla does not make Musk a pioneering developer of the use of the electric current; it just means he named his company after someone who was.

Nikola Tesla died broke, btw.

Tesla was not his first choice for a name from what I read. But its short, rolls off the tongue. I doubt too much investigaiton into the man himself was done before deciding on the name. Pretty much. electricty link - that'll do.

And he died broke because he was squashed by the big boys. Something we see today with the global Corps running riot.
 
Tesla was not his first choice for a name from what I read. But its short, rolls off the tongue. I doubt too much investigaiton into the man himself was done before deciding on the name. Pretty much. electricty link - that'll do.

And he died broke because he was squashed by the big boys. Something we see today with the global Corps running riot.
Yeah **** Starbucks.
 
No7 was talking about tax evasion …

“The UK’s tax authority has not fined a single “enabler” of offshore tax evasion or noncompliance in five years, despite landmark powers to impose huge fines.

Tory ministers claimed new laws introduced in 2017 allowed HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) to pursue accountants, lawyers and bankers who facilitate offshore tax evasion would “create a level playing field”, with potential fines of several millions of pounds.

New figures disclosed under freedom of information laws to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism reveal no one has been fined in the last five years under the powers”
 
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Things Labour need to bear in mind to be elected … and if they get elected

“Between 2008 and 2010, McSweeney was adapting the same principles to organising against the BNP in Barking, where he met another of his key mentors, the Labour MP Jon Cruddas. One of the lessons they took from that fight was that it was not always lofty ideals that defeated extremism, but also graft and a willingness to listen to what was at the root of people’s problems, which was often anger at government incompetence”
 
Apparently there are still an estimated 7 million people eligible to vote, that haven’t registered to vote.
Maybe Labour can reintroduce the rule that was in place for years, where the “head” of the household registered everyone who lived in the same house/flat.
The only reason it was changed (in 2014), was to reduce the number of young people from voting, as they would traditionally vote against the conservatives, but would be less likely to register (IMO). An attempt at gerrymandering just like the introduction of ID.
 
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Things Labour need to bear in mind to be elected … and if they get elected

“Between 2008 and 2010, McSweeney was adapting the same principles to organising against the BNP in Barking, where he met another of his key mentors, the Labour MP Jon Cruddas. One of the lessons they took from that fight was that it was not always lofty ideals that defeated extremism, but also graft and a willingness to listen to what was at the root of people’s problems, which was often anger at government incompetence”


Yep, listening to the concerns of disconnected people, is generally a lot more productive than dismissing them as thick angry bigots.

On the other hand, there are a lot of thick angry bigots about. So it's a balancing act.
 
Can someone post a link on here that I’m sure they have before on who to vote for, if voting tactically?

I’m in Bournemouth West and was going to vote Labour to get Connor Burns out, but just had an interesting chat with the Lib Dem candidate who naturally thinks the Lib Dems are the better bet, but I am not so sure.
 
He didn't even do that, for what it's worth. He didn't found Tesla.

God you people are so boring.

You can’t stand to see anyone being successful can you?

Liberal politics is just the politics of envy and bitterness.