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Not sure where to put this, but my father in law has a new documentary out next week on BBC2 on Tuesday (and iPlayer). It's about the British informant, "Stakeknife", who was at the top of the IRA's notorious 'nutting squad', and who was believed to have been involved in up to 20 murders.

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If people are genuinely concerned that there's a woke agenda, and it's being supported/driven by 'mainstream media' - I'd politely suggest that actually reading said mainstream media might be a sensible idea in order to back up, or challenge such assertions (and no, before anyone starts, this isn't a dig at Os or IOAG - it's a general point about how people use catch-alls without actually looking *properly* at stuff. It's a Trump thing where phrases, nicknames and sayings become more powerful than content).

If you read The Sunday Times comment section today (always the best part of the paper IMHO), the headlines for the pieces are as follows:

Political Correctness Has Supressed Debate We Must Have On Immigration

If Segregation Is Centre Stage In Theatreland, It's Curtains For Equality

Indulging Killers' Trans Delusions Is Dangerous

All of which are very well put together arguments and points, agree with them or not. This supposed agenda doesn't really exist, if you actually take the time to read the media itself (something I'd continue to recommend strongly that everyone do).
 
If people are genuinely concerned that there's a woke agenda, and it's being supported/driven by 'mainstream media' - I'd politely suggest that actually reading said mainstream media might be a sensible idea in order to back up, or challenge such assertions (and no, before anyone starts, this isn't a dig at Os or IOAG - it's a general point about how people use catch-alls without actually looking *properly* at stuff. It's a Trump thing where phrases, nicknames and sayings become more powerful than content).

If you read The Sunday Times comment section today (always the best part of the paper IMHO), the headlines for the pieces are as follows:

Political Correctness Has Supressed Debate We Must Have On Immigration

If Segregation Is Centre Stage In Theatreland, It's Curtains For Equality

Indulging Killers' Trans Delusions Is Dangerous

All of which are very well put together arguments and points, agree with them or not. This supposed agenda doesn't really exist, if you actually take the time to read the media itself (something I'd continue to recommend strongly that everyone do).

Cherry picking articles to suit your point.

It does exist. And it’s even worse than you think because it’s not just mainstream media, it’s being taught in schools as part of the curriculum
 
If people are genuinely concerned that there's a woke agenda, and it's being supported/driven by 'mainstream media' - I'd politely suggest that actually reading said mainstream media might be a sensible idea in order to back up, or challenge such assertions (and no, before anyone starts, this isn't a dig at Os or IOAG - it's a general point about how people use catch-alls without actually looking *properly* at stuff. It's a Trump thing where phrases, nicknames and sayings become more powerful than content).

If you read The Sunday Times comment section today (always the best part of the paper IMHO), the headlines for the pieces are as follows:

Political Correctness Has Supressed Debate We Must Have On Immigration

If Segregation Is Centre Stage In Theatreland, It's Curtains For Equality

Indulging Killers' Trans Delusions Is Dangerous

All of which are very well put together arguments and points, agree with them or not. This supposed agenda doesn't really exist, if you actually take the time to read the media itself (something I'd continue to recommend strongly that everyone do).
Land of Woke and Glory.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13183222.2023.2273656
 
Cherry picking articles to suit your point.

It does exist. And it’s even worse than you think because it’s not just mainstream media, it’s being taught in schools as part of the curriculum

I’m genuinely not. That was just todays Sunday Times. I read The Times every day, and there’s anything but a ‘woke agenda’.

I agree some of it is a concern, including in schools and, more so, in universities. But it’s not some globalist agenda incorporating the media.
 
If people are genuinely concerned that there's a woke agenda, and it's being supported/driven by 'mainstream media' - I'd politely suggest that actually reading said mainstream media might be a sensible idea in order to back up, or challenge such assertions (and no, before anyone starts, this isn't a dig at Os or IOAG - it's a general point about how people use catch-alls without actually looking *properly* at stuff. It's a Trump thing where phrases, nicknames and sayings become more powerful than content).

If you read The Sunday Times comment section today (always the best part of the paper IMHO), the headlines for the pieces are as follows:

Political Correctness Has Supressed Debate We Must Have On Immigration

If Segregation Is Centre Stage In Theatreland, It's Curtains For Equality

Indulging Killers' Trans Delusions Is Dangerous

All of which are very well put together arguments and points, agree with them or not. This supposed agenda doesn't really exist, if you actually take the time to read the media itself (something I'd continue to recommend strongly that everyone do).

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles...hing-i-just-learned-from-the-mainstream-media
 
First time I’ve ever felt that way about my country; even when our football hooligans were smashing up European town squares, and Margaret Thatcher was generating headlines like Up Yours Delors, I always felt that wasn’t really us; that we were a tolerant people beyond those aberrations. I’m not so sure any more.
There’s a lot riding on this next election and the what changes if Labour get a majority
 
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