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Now it's getting scary, we'd never heard of Halloween when we were kids now a ghoulish Faragesque type image is forming in my mind!
I was just about to post that we have already had Farage, who lost to a dolphin. Who next, Julia Hartley-Brewer? Sophie Corcoran? Emily Carver?

The saving grace of the British is our sense of humour.
 
Hartley-Brewer might not be too far off, really. I was thinking of someone like David Campbell Bannerman, only younger and with a modicum of charisma, but if they shift in that direction she ticks a fair number of the boxes...
 
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Schad, I don't know if you ever noticed but this is an English forum and I have to ask you why you continually peddle 'new's from the USA which most of us don't give a flying **** about. Whatever happens in the jolly old USA can eventually cause ripples over here but to be honest, why is there a need to announce all the silly **** that is happening over there? The nonsense in America doesn't really have anything to do with us and we have our own collection of absolute ****wits. They are known as Conservatives and the only newsworthy item coming out of the USA would be if they nuked Downing Street when the morons were holding a cabinet meeting.

The USD is the worlds reserve currency, and as such it has a massive impact on the rest of the world.

This is why the USA news is such a big deal everywhere
 
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The USD is the worlds reserve currency, and as such it has a massive impact on the rest of the world.

This is why the USA news is such a big deal everywhere

I just think Kaito's post is a bit odd. It's very "I'm not interested, so nobody is interested".

I don't have any interest when Tom and Magic talk American Football on the General Sports thread, but it shouldn't really be something that bothers people. It's a general sport (kind of). Politics in America impact politics over here, and are still politics....so....(though it is a shame you've muted Schad. You're missing out).
 
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And I'll make a prediction: assuming the Conservatives in the UK get wiped out in the next election (and that seems likely), you'll see a strong leadership bid by a candidate taking their cues from American conservatives: a fire-breathing populist (and not of the Eton-educated phony variety) running on anger against the elites in their own party, on culture issues, and against the 'broken' political system as a whole.

I don't know whether they'll win -- given that we're still talking about card-carrying Tories who will select the leader, and that group has shifted ideologically by a smaller margin than Tory voters as a whole -- but I do expect that they'll pull a lot more people like them back into the party from the lunatic fringe, and that will set the Conservative Party on the path toward reactionary politics that we've seen repeated over and over with the political right across a number of countries.
Such a person would need to be elected in the House of Commons in the next election. It’s not impossible but depending on the nature of the result the pool of choices could be restricted
 
Such a person would need to be elected in the House of Commons in the next election. It’s not impossible but depending on the nature of the result the pool of choices could be restricted

Have to admit that I was unaware of that, as in the Canadian clone of the Westminster system, there is no such requirement...choosing party leaders from outside Parliament has been fairly commonplace. Would been fun when our own Conservatives were reduced to two seats in 1993 (having gone into the election as the governing party); what would have happened if they both voted for themselves?

That could mean a very narrow field for the next leadership race...
 
I just think Kaito's post is a bit odd. It's very "I'm not interested, so nobody is interested".

I don't have any interest when Tom and Magic talk American Football on the General Sports thread, but it shouldn't really be something that bothers people. It's a general sport (kind of). Politics in America impact politics over here, and are still politics....so....(though it is a shame you've muted Schad. You're missing out).

You thinking my post is a bit odd and ascribing it to mean "I'm not interested, so nobody is interested" is distorting the meaning of what I wrote. I was referring to Schad where he posts the most obscure stuff from the USA concerning people such as Ken Klippenstein, Laura Loomer and Paul Pelosi. It is what I feel and to be honest Laces, I really don't need to be lectured by you about what I should or shouldn't write. I get that you see yourself as the 'voice of reason' on this forum and you like to take the middle of the road approach. That's fine and dandy but look at what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.

Look back over the posts I have made on here and I think you will find I have a pretty balanced outlook on life and politics. I Just feel posts about obscure American **** is pointless, especially on an English forum. I did not write that everything about America and American politics is pointless and I put the important bit in bold for you so you you can understand the point I was making.
 
You thinking my post is a bit odd and ascribing it to mean "I'm not interested, so nobody is interested" is distorting the meaning of what I wrote. I was referring to Schad where he posts the most obscure stuff from the USA concerning people such as Ken Klippenstein, Laura Loomer

Klippenstein and Loomer relate to what Os posted. Klippenstein was one of the authors of the article he made a big deal out of. Loomer was the person 'cancelled' by Uber that he referenced.

Paul Pelosi.

Is the husband of one of the most important politicians in the country, who was attacked and beaten by a person attempting to assassinate his wife. Imagine if someone broke into Penny Mourdant's house looking for her, and beat her partner with a claw hammer to the point where he required surgery because his skull was caved in. That would be a pretty big deal, would it not? Hardly 'obscure stuff'.
 
You thinking my post is a bit odd and ascribing it to mean "I'm not interested, so nobody is interested" is distorting the meaning of what I wrote. I was referring to Schad where he posts the most obscure stuff from the USA concerning people such as Ken Klippenstein, Laura Loomer and Paul Pelosi. It is what I feel and to be honest Laces, I really don't need to be lectured by you about what I should or shouldn't write. I get that you see yourself as the 'voice of reason' on this forum and you like to take the middle of the road approach. That's fine and dandy but look at what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.

Look back over the posts I have made on here and I think you will find I have a pretty balanced outlook on life and politics. I Just feel posts about obscure American **** is pointless, especially on an English forum. I did not write that everything about America and American politics is pointless and I put the important bit in bold for you so you you can understand the point I was making.

Those people aren’t particularly obscure. You just don’t really know much about global politics
 
You thinking my post is a bit odd and ascribing it to mean "I'm not interested, so nobody is interested" is distorting the meaning of what I wrote. I was referring to Schad where he posts the most obscure stuff from the USA concerning people such as Ken Klippenstein, Laura Loomer and Paul Pelosi. It is what I feel and to be honest Laces, I really don't need to be lectured by you about what I should or shouldn't write. I get that you see yourself as the 'voice of reason' on this forum and you like to take the middle of the road approach. That's fine and dandy but look at what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.

Look back over the posts I have made on here and I think you will find I have a pretty balanced outlook on life and politics. I Just feel posts about obscure American **** is pointless, especially on an English forum. I did not write that everything about America and American politics is pointless and I put the important bit in bold for you so you you can understand the point I was making.

Seems the two above have made my point already.
 
Social media tends to be an echo chamber unless you actually make an effort for it not to be - let us not try and make this forum into it one as well. If you see something you don't like, try and understand it from their point of view, then either debate it or ignore it. It normally takes a few seconds to skim a post, where you can choose to skip it or read it more carefully.
Just don't tell someone not to post it, you may not like it but maybe someone else finds it useful as either education or a debating point.
 
Klippenstein and Loomer relate to what Os posted. Klippenstein was one of the authors of the article he made a big deal out of. Loomer was the person 'cancelled' by Uber that he referenced.



Is the husband of one of the most important politicians in the country, who was attacked and beaten by a person attempting to assassinate his wife. Imagine if someone broke into Penny Mourdant's house looking for her, and beat her partner with a claw hammer to the point where he required surgery because his skull was caved in. That would be a pretty big deal, would it not? Hardly 'obscure stuff'.
If anything using Penny Mourdant as an comparison is underselling it. Leader of the house in the US is much different than in the U.K.

It’s much closer to the actually leader of the party
 
In doubling down on their already failed policy of raising interests rates to combat inflation, this time to 3%, the Bank of England have proved that their nominal independence from government is either a waste of time, or that they’re doing exactly what the government wants them to do.

Either way, the country is astronomically, biblically, ****ed.

Not even a General Election will sort this mess out. Time to sharpen the pitchforks I reckon.
 
I've been following American politics closely ever since the 2020 election and there is some crazy **** going on over there a lot like Italy, Spain and Germany in the 1930s. Their democracy could be hanging by a thread especially if the Democrats lose the midterm election and the World needs a strong and stable USA in these worrying times.