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The geographic distribution is interesting:

https://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=619781

While these are obviously small numbers overall, note how many of the areas in dark red (indicating a large number of signatures) are in Conservative-held ridings...

And it's only one poll (and you should never trust just one poll), but it's a pretty shocking poll:

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No confidence votes from Tory backbenchers have already been submitted against Liz Truss after 14 days in office. As I have said previously, this will be a very short-lived government.
 
The geographic distribution is interesting:

https://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=619781

While these are obviously small numbers overall, note how many of the areas in dark red (indicating a large number of signatures) are in Conservative-held ridings...

And it's only one poll (and you should never trust just one poll), but it's a pretty shocking poll:

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Very pleased to see my own constituency of Wells (Heappey, Con) among the dark red bits. There are obviously loads of us desperate to get our best MP ever back in, the Lib Dem Tessa Munt. Although I want to see a Labour government, I wouldn’t be unhappy if the Lib Dem’s held the balance of power to force Starmer down the PR route.
 
I guess the bastards were buying heavily on currencies, knowing they could sell them back a few days later and make a large fortune.
Compared to about 6 weeks ago, transferring my state pension to Spain now would lose me in the region of €20 a week.
Fortunately I sent over enough money to keep me ticking over for a few months while I wait to see if there is any recovery in the £.
Think about talking UK pensions other than state into a CROP. There are many benefits, UK pension annuities are a bad use of a pension pot.
 
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Here are some of my junior high and high school teachers here in Canada:

- High school English teacher who would vaguely suggest that he was the reincarnation of William Golding, the author of Lord of the Flies, which is a particularly strange belief given that their lifetimes overlapped by several decades. Had a purely psychosomatic allergy to oranges; if he saw one he'd have a 'reaction', but only if he saw it, and it could be across a large room. Fell down fairly regularly.

- Drama teacher who got so tired of our **** (understandable) that he picked up a chair and threw it over the head of one of the students, where it smashed against the wall and broke. Disappeared for a couple of weeks on leave. Returned and had us do nothing but mime for a couple weeks thereafter to keep us quiet.

- Physical education teacher who let my class (and no other, apparently) have "free time" periods, where we could all do our own thing. The reason? There was a rather attractive girl in our class that used "free time" to do yoga, and he liked to watch her. We were 16. He would have been in his 40s/early 50s.

- A junior high school math teacher who couldn't do math. Also a terrible softball coach, which was his real passion. Now teaches at the high school from what I understand.

- A junior social studies teacher who just...didn't know anything. I can't remember the incredibly long list of bizarre things he believed anymore, as too many years have passed, beyond his belief that Russia broke up and formed the USSR (if memory serves, this is because we had an outdated map in class that still showed the USSR); his belief that 2% milk meant that it only contained 2% milk, and they filled the rest with water; that he believed that Anne of Green Gables was a true story. Believe he left teaching the year after I had him.


Just as with the person you're citing, the reason their peculiarities were tolerated (or at least did not result in their firing) is that, for better and worse, Canada has strong teacher's unions. But none of the above attracted international news coverage or were treated as leading indicators of the collapse of civilization or equal twaddle, probably because no right-wing politicians or 'thought leaders' could gain from exploiting their existence.

Any child being exposed to people like that could be affected well into adulthood. And that would probably give them a serious distortion of life and what is acceptable behaviour. I wonder what happened to them?
 
Very pleased to see my own constituency of Wells (Heappey, Con) among the dark red bits. There are obviously loads of us desperate to get our best MP ever back in, the Lib Dem Tessa Munt. Although I want to see a Labour government, I wouldn’t be unhappy if the Lib Dem’s held the balance of power to force Starmer down the PR route.
I read a suggestion that Keir can’t go heavy on supporting PR, or include it in his manifesto, because the Tory supporting media would weaponise it with a variety of headlines suggesting that Labour couldn’t gain power with FPTP so we’re trying to “rig” future elections and gain power by default.
I think the fear is that those who normally support the Tories, who are considering voting for Keir as the least worse option, might not lend him their vote if it means the Tories never having overall control again.
The fact that the Tories generally run the country with a minority vote will continue to be ignored.
 
I read a suggestion that Keir can’t go heavy on supporting PR, or include it in his manifesto, because the Tory supporting media would weaponise it with a variety of headlines suggesting that Labour couldn’t gain power with FPTP so we’re trying to “rig” future elections and gain power by default.
I think the fear is that those who normally support the Tories, who are considering voting for Keir as the least worse option, might not lend him their vote if it means the Tories never having overall control again.
The fact that the Tories generally run the country with a minority vote will continue to be ignored.
As it stands neither side could gain power with full PR. So what the complaint really is is that the conservatives can’t gain a majority with a minority of the vote. Something that should never happen anyway
 
Not so
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Polls this far out of an election cycle can have wider margins. I don’t for one second believe the gap would be that much if an election was on

Also wasn’t it 45% Labour - so not enough to govern under PR. They would need a coalition
 
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Polls this far out of an election cycle can have wider margins. I don’t for one second believe the gap would be that much if an election was on

Also wasn’t it 45% Labour - so not enough to govern under PR. They would need a coalition
The seat prediction is an easy calculation based on this poll’s figures, which of course assume that we won’t have a magical transformation to PR before the next General Election.
I would remind you that this poll was done before Kwarteng’s speech wrecked the economy. And we haven’t even had the Bank of England’s interest rate hike yet which will effectively kill the housing market and devastate the private rental sector.
 
Any child being exposed to people like that could be affected well into adulthood. And that would probably give them a serious distortion of life and what is acceptable behaviour. I wonder what happened to them?

Oh, come on now. None of those kids are going to have their lives altered because they had a weird teacher. They'll have a funny story into adulthood, and that's about it.